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g4ndr1k wrote:Ada postingan dari forum sebelah:
Golf TSI mungkin mobil yg bagus....buat di Eropa.

Masalah2 yg mungkin timbul bila dipergunakan di Indonesia:
1. Bensin oktan 95+ harus dng kadar sulfur 10ppm, yg tersedia disini kadar sulfurnya >50ppm.
Akibatnya: Pembakaran tidak sempurna yg dapat berakibat kerusakan pada piston mesin (retak). Mesin menjadi kasar dan kurang bertenaga, dan engine check/stop akan menyala.
Banyak contoh kasus yg terjadi baru2 ini di Australia, pada seri Golf TSI 1.4 160hp dng angka kilometer masih rendah < 20rb KM.

2. Sistem direct injection pada mesin VW/Audi dan mungkin juga pada hampir semua merek lain yg baru2 ini mempergunakan technology ini, mudah mengakibatkan penumpukan kerak carbon (carbon builtup) pada ruang pembakaran mesin. Ini dapat cepat terjadi bahkan pada angka KM yg relatif rendah (<30rb KM).
Akibatnya: Pembakaran tidak sempurna karena klep masuk (intake valve) menjadi sangat kotor. Mesin menjadi kasar dan kurang bertenaga (hingga 40%), dan engine check/stop akan menyala. Tidak menimbulkan kerusakan, dan satu2 cara memperbaikinya adalah dng membuka cylinder head dan melakukan port polishing.

Kedua masalah ini sudah banyak contoh kasusnya. Try googling: "golf tsi engine failure"

Kabar kurang baik ya, apalagi gue sendiri sudah coba test drive di IIMS & suka banget.
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ibar78 wrote:sekalian nanya....di sini, atpm mobil apa aja yang kita boleh test drive di jalan, selain tentunya test drive di lokasi atpm....apa kita harus bikin perjanjian atau gimana, trus kalo ga jadi beli gimana karena terpengaruh merek lain. misal pengen beli yaris, trus tiba2 beralih ke jazz....padahal udeh test drive di lokasi.....soalnya test drive di lokasi sama di jalan beda jauh....sorry ane kalo mobil baru newbie, seringnya beli seken :ungg:
sebaiknya janjian dulu dng salesnya pak.....jadi unit test drivenya bs mereka sediakan, mengenai jadi membeli atau tidaknya itu hak calon konsumen, gak usah kuatir jika batal membeli....si sales tentu akan terus follow up, tapi kalo kt bs jelaskan secara gamblang tentu mereka jg mengerti......sebab jadi atau tidak membeli itu hal yg biasa dlm penjualan....

tapi kalo saya pribadi, jika batal membeli ya sebaiknya kasi aja sekedar uang tip aja buat salesnya, ya itung2 untuk nambahin ongkos mereka krn udah bolak balik ke kantor/rumah untuk ketemuan dalam rangka follow up.....tapi itu jg tentatif sih, kalo salesnya pasif dan sok jual mahal mah ogaaah...... :mrgreen:
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Om2,
Pernah compare dgn Subaru New Impreza Hatchback 1.5R A/T gaak ya?
Kayaknya sekelas yaa ama Golf TSI 1.4.

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rizalp wrote:Om2,
Pernah compare dgn Subaru New Impreza Hatchback 1.5R A/T gaak ya?
Kayaknya sekelas yaa ama Golf TSI 1.4.

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Waduh bro jauh bgt tuh..Mesin megang Golf TSI kemana2 160Hp torsi 220nm (golf) vs 108hp torsi sekitar 140an nm..Interior..Eksterior juga megang golf..Cuma handling aja yg 11-12.. :big_peace: Jadi ya pilih golf TSI kemana2.. :big_smoking:
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aldy wrote:
rizalp wrote:Om2,
Pernah compare dgn Subaru New Impreza Hatchback 1.5R A/T gaak ya?
Kayaknya sekelas yaa ama Golf TSI 1.4.

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Waduh bro jauh bgt tuh..Mesin megang Golf TSI kemana2 160Hp torsi 220nm (golf) vs 108hp torsi sekitar 140an nm..Interior..Eksterior juga megang golf..Cuma handling aja yg 11-12.. :big_peace: Jadi ya pilih golf TSI kemana2.. :big_smoking:
lalu gimana dengan harganya...?? selisihnya jauh gak ?
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jalu wrote:
aldy wrote:
rizalp wrote:Om2,
Pernah compare dgn Subaru New Impreza Hatchback 1.5R A/T gaak ya?
Kayaknya sekelas yaa ama Golf TSI 1.4.

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Waduh bro jauh bgt tuh..Mesin megang Golf TSI kemana2 160Hp torsi 220nm (golf) vs 108hp torsi sekitar 140an nm..Interior..Eksterior juga megang golf..Cuma handling aja yg 11-12.. :big_peace: Jadi ya pilih golf TSI kemana2.. :big_smoking:
lalu gimana dengan harganya...?? selisihnya jauh gak ?
thanks om2....
kalo harga lumayan jauh.. subaru kalo gak salah sekitar 275jutaan deh... CMIIW...
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Lah golf TSI kan tinggal 339juta sekarang udah CKD..Kalo Golf GTI jauh bgt 500an juta.. :big_peace:
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Tinggal modif eksterior dikit biar garang..mantabss :big_smoking:

Selisih 6o juta ama subaru impreza 1.5 kebayar sama build quality,interior quality,7-speed DSG mesin powerfull dan bahkan kayaknya berani deh lawan camry 3.5 di tol.. :big_peace:
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untuk ngelawan camri 3.5 di tol mah, gak perlu golf GT... pake eterna GTi aja... atau lancer GTi...

btw, daripada golft GTi, yang "cuman" 200PS, ane mending impreza WRX 2.5 hatchback loh... sudah AWD, boxer engine.. harga dibawah gopek...
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maskopat wrote:untuk ngelawan camri 3.5 di tol mah, gak perlu golf GT... pake eterna GTi aja... atau lancer GTi...
Kaya pernah nyobain Camry 3.5 aja :mrgreen: Pake Eterna pernah gak?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sed ... index.html
The Altima and Camry outpace the Porsche 928 S4 and the Ferrari Testarossa, respectively, to 60
Bawa pecundang yg sepadannya juga boleh...Galant Ralliart 3.8 V6 http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car ... _road_test
However, the Ralliart can't keep up with an Accord V-6 manual or the V-6 versions of the new-for-2007 Nissan Altima and Toyota Camry. And although Mitsubishi would like you to consider the Ralliart a Mazdaspeed 6 competitor, to us, that's a different, far-sportier animal, one we would classify as a sports sedan. The Mazda doesn't offer as much passenger space, but it's far quicker, has all-wheel drive, handles better, and doesn't cost much more, either.
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eterna GTi om? pernah.... 170kpj++ sebentar doang.... :mrgreen:
ente pernah bawa eterna GTi?
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om FM, maksudnya outspace testarossa itu gimana ya?
kalo ane lihat data di wikipedia:
The Ferrari Testarossa can accelerate from 0–100 kilometres per hour (62 mph) in 5.8 seconds[1] and from 0–97 kilometres per hour (60 mph) in 5.2 seconds and on to 161 km/h (100 mph) in 11.40 seconds[1] (though Motor Trend Magazine managed 5.29 seconds and 11.3 seconds, respectively).[2] It can complete a standing (from stationary) quarter mile (~400 m) in 13.50 seconds or a standing kilometre in 23.80 seconds.[1] The maximum speed of the Testarossa is 290 kilometres per hour (180 mph).[9]
sementara camry dari 0-60mph butuh 6.2s.... camry lebih lambat 1s... jadi bingung nih om... bisa dijelaskan maksud outspace itu.... :thanks:
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Waduh yakin tuh bro eterna GTI (standard loh kalo modif ya lain cerita) bisa ngasepin camry 3.5 he2 :big_peace:
Para camry 3.5 owners bicara dong?? :mrgreen:
Kalo teoritis sih kyknya bisa ngejar tapi susah kalo mau ngasepin.. :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
Lha wong V6 277Hp torsi 350 nm VS 140hp torsi 200an nm..Ya jauh lah bro he2 :big_peace: Mungkin masih setara kalo ama Galant "hiu" V6..
Mungkin yg dimaksud bro maskopat camry yg 2.4 itu baru bisa diasepin.. :mrgreen:
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khan udah ada data outputnya mesinnya, coba dicek bobot kendaraannya untuk dapetin angka pwr.....
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Iya bener bro emang camry 3.5 bobotnya 1,61 ton 277Hp..Eterna kan sekitar 1,4ton 140Hp..Nah kalo diitung2 camry power to weight rationya tetep lebih baik dari eterna..CMIIW
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ya sdh....berarti diatas kertas, camry lbh unggul...tapi diatas aspal itu perlu road test......
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jalu wrote:ya sdh....berarti diatas kertas, camry lbh unggul...tapi diatas aspal itu perlu road test......
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jalu wrote:ya sdh....berarti diatas kertas, camry lbh unggul...tapi diatas aspal itu perlu road test......
setuju, itu pembuktian sebenarnya. masalah ngasap-ngasapin bukan sekadar hitung²an power torsi aja.
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ngasap ngasapin, kayak musim demam berdarah ajee :big_weee:
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eh, ane bilang kan ngelawan... bukan ngasepin.... :big_weee:
untuk ngelawan camri 3.5 di tol mah, gak perlu golf GT... pake eterna GTi aja... atau lancer GTi...
yang bilang eterna GTi bakal menang siapa ya? :ngacir:

kalo ngelawan, SL ane mah juga bisa ngelawan camry 3.5.. siapa yang menang? kita lihat aja di jalan raya....
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maskopat wrote:eterna GTi om? pernah.... 170kpj++ sebentar doang.... :mrgreen:
ente pernah bawa eterna GTi?
Pernah, belajar mobil pake Eterna jaman SMP/SMA...mobil kantor pula...ane serempet sana sini :mrgreen:
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aldy wrote:Iya bener bro emang camry 3.5 bobotnya 1,61 ton 277Hp..Eterna kan sekitar 1,4ton 140Hp..Nah kalo diitung2 camry power to weight rationya tetep lebih baik dari eterna..CMIIW
Wong Galant terbaru, cc lebih gede ( 3.8 V6 ) aja di babat ama Camry 3.5....apalagi mbahnya Eterna tahun kuda gigit besi? Apa iya Eterna/Galant 2000 cc lebih kenceng dr Galant terbaru dgn cc nyaris 2 kali lipet? Mundur dong berarti Mitsubishi :P
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Btt ah...ngomongin Golf malah jadi ke Mitsubishi jadul. Tadi di PIM ada juga tuh Golf...putih bener2 keren. Ngiler deh...
Kursi belakangnya juga OK...senderan kepalanya pas :off_good_job:
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FortunerMan wrote:Btt ah...ngomongin Golf malah jadi ke Mitsubishi jadul. Tadi di PIM ada juga tuh Golf...putih bener2 keren. Ngiler deh...
Kursi belakangnya juga OK...senderan kepalanya pas :off_good_job:
Sempet ambil fotonya nggak Om FM? :ungg: Denger2 Golf yg dipajang di PIM udah dimodif, tapi nggak jelas apanya yg dimodif... :e-think:
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FortunerMan wrote:
aldy wrote:Iya bener bro emang camry 3.5 bobotnya 1,61 ton 277Hp..Eterna kan sekitar 1,4ton 140Hp..Nah kalo diitung2 camry power to weight rationya tetep lebih baik dari eterna..CMIIW
Wong Galant terbaru, cc lebih gede ( 3.8 V6 ) aja di babat ama Camry 3.5....apalagi mbahnya Eterna tahun kuda gigit besi? Apa iya Eterna/Galant 2000 cc lebih kenceng dr Galant terbaru dgn cc nyaris 2 kali lipet? Mundur dong berarti Mitsubishi :P
percaya om... wong camry bisa outpace testarossa.... :mrgreen:
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Bro Masko , Saya jadi ingat pada eterna GTI saya memang pada waktu itu saya rasa mobil ini memang paling kenceng 0-100 nya dan beberapa tahun kemudian saya pakai C230 Kompressor dan memang masih kencang eterna , sayang eterna saya rusak gara gara limiter rpm ecu nya saya lepas , jadi kayak kuda jingkrak kalau jalan . Tapi kalau sekarang sih saya rasa masih ngga sanggup lah kalau eterna nguber camry 3.5 , BTW Eterna salah satu mobil yang paling puas saya pakai .