Head 2 Head, Mazda 2 vs Hyundai i20

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Re: Head 2 Head, Mazda 2 vs Hyundai i20

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Mazda 2 memakai B-platform Ford? kok dibalik ya. masalahnya mazda 2 dulu yang keluar bertahun - tahun dibanding ford fiesta. tapi mungkin bung fortunerman dapet informasi lebih detail. masalah co-development itu sangat mungkin karena ford juga punya saham di mazda.

jangankan ford wong jazz CKD aja mintanya pertamax.
spec resmi mazda 2 indonesia minta oktan 91

yup tuning mesing mungkin beda karena tiap merk ingin menunjukkan karakteristiknya sendiri tapi tetep mesin yang sama dan per suspendi yang digunakan sama.

yang mungkin paling beda dari ford adalah desain bodinya, dia desain sendiri bodinya (sesuai aerodinamika dan keindahan yang disesuaikan dengan karakter brandnya) tapi kerangkanya sama dengan mazda 2.

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Inpo2 dr Google..

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-a ... iesta_2009
Based on the Verve concept car shown at last years Frankfurt Motor Show, the seventh-generation hatch shares about 20 per cent of its hardware with the Mazda2, as part of Ford's global product development system. But Ford engineers modified the suspension, steering and dynamics.

Although both cars were developed side-by-side, the Fiesta gets Ford's DNA. Like the current crop of Aussie and European Fords, the Fiesta uses Ford's kinetic design language, with the signature bulging wheelarches, trapezoidal grille and slimline headlights.The interior also gets a classy, European feel.

Designers have taken inspiration from the latest mobile phones for the car's centre console and upper dashboard controls.
Apart from the two side air vents on the dashboard, its hard to pick any visual commonality.

Both the Fiesta and Mazda2 share the same MacPherson strut front suspension and twist-beam rear suspension suspensions but the Ford is tuned differently. Even the rear muffler has been re-engineered to provide a sportier exhaust note.

Ford vehicle engineering manager, Dieter Schwarz, says the bushings, spring and damper rates at the rear have been retuned.
“As the car is stiffer than even the Mazda2 we've been able to provide a more compliant ride without any handling tradeoff,” he says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fiesta
The sixth generation of the Ford Fiesta Mark VI,[19] was shown in concept form as the Ford Verve at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September 2007 and is currently marketed in principal European markets including Germany [20] and Great Britain. It shares its platform (new Ford global B-car platform) with the Mazda 2.
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Hmm... ford fiesta dan mazda 2 ... mesinnya sama atau hanya Platform aja pakai yg sama?

Kalau platform dan mesin sama.. artinya design body, interior dan tuning berbeda.. ga bisa dibilang rebadge.

Kalau dilihat sptnya Mazda2 lebih pamor dibanding fiesta krn menyabet gelar WCOTY, ... so sptnya ajokz sudah ambil keputusan yg tepat u/ ambil mazda2 daripada nunggu fiesta, .. apalagi kalau 2010 ppnbm naik banyak.
Good timing bro.

Well hari ini 25 Nov... jadi launching dimana ya nih Mazda2?
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TQ bro FortunerMan atas infonya.


Both the Fiesta and Mazda2 share the same MacPherson strut front suspension and twist-beam rear suspension suspensions but the Ford is tuned differently. Jadi suspensi sama beda tuning, bro maxx. Kalau mesin dari info2 seharusnya sama. kan sudah berbagi pabrik jadi plaing masuk akal kalau komponen2 nya banyak yang sama.

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Type dan Harga Mazda 2 ( OTR Jakarta ) - Info terakhir yang aku dapat
Harga Launching Sampai Akhir Tahun

Type S 1.5L Manual ------ Rp .175.000.000,-
Type S 1.5L Automatic --- Rp .185.000.000,-

Type R 1.5L Manual ------ Rp .193.000.000,-
Type R 1.5L Automatic --- Rp .200.000.000,-




Type dan Harga Mazda 2 ( OTR SURABAYA)

Type S 1.5L Manual ------ Rp .181.[cencored].000,-

Type R 1.5L Manual ------ Rp .199.[cencored].000,-
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wow harganya bersaing banget nih!! hehe
minggu lalu liat di pattaya lagi ada pameran di carefournya sempet ngubek2 dalemnya OK juga loh...
ane pikir bakal dia atas 200jt hehehe
worth it nih mazda 2 :big_peace:
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bro ajokz infonya mantap

sama persis :D

http://oto.detik.com/read/2009/11/25/12 ... p-175-juta
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masih belum jelas nih... bedanya mazda2 type S dan R ada dimana ya?
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Om. gu kasih alamat PDF nya. baca sendiri ya ^^

http://mazda.co.id/getdoc/51fda7ae-8f60 ... _Indo.aspx

ini spec resmi indonesia. tidak ada ketentuan harus pake bensin berapa oktan. ada info?
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selain spec di pdf itu. Garis bodi samping tipe s dan r berbeda, serta daerah logo mazda di depan agak berbeda, di mana tidak dapat diganti.
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yang jelas ukuran velg nya beda... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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rocks wrote:yang jelas ukuran velg nya beda... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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ajokz wrote:
rocks wrote:yang jelas ukuran velg nya beda... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
HAHAHA
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Wah udah nongol di websitenya...kemaren ane cek belon ada...
http://mazda.co.id/mazda2.aspx
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ajokz wrote:Om. gu kasih alamat PDF nya. baca sendiri ya ^^

http://mazda.co.id/getdoc/51fda7ae-8f60 ... _Indo.aspx

ini spec resmi indonesia. tidak ada ketentuan harus pake bensin berapa oktan. ada info?
Torison Beam hahaha...
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Iya tuh spec nya salah tulissss....
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ajokz wrote:Om. gu kasih alamat PDF nya. baca sendiri ya ^^

http://mazda.co.id/getdoc/51fda7ae-8f60 ... _Indo.aspx

ini spec resmi indonesia. tidak ada ketentuan harus pake bensin berapa oktan. ada info?
lihat compression ratio aja bos.... kalo dah diatas 9 sebaiknya pakai pertamax.
Umumnya sih di buku manual tertulis RON recommendation... kalo RON91 .. ya pasti bagusnya isi pertamax.
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FortunerMan wrote:Wah udah nongol di websitenya...kemaren ane cek belon ada...
http://mazda.co.id/mazda2.aspx
Pasti udah disiapin.... pas launching... diaktifkan.
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FortunerMan wrote:Iya tuh spec nya salah tulissss....
kaga mungkin salah tulis lah... liat di http://mazda.co.id/mazda2/driving.aspx

jelas tertulis dan juga ada fotonya...
MacPherson strut at the front and torsion beam at the rear
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hehe iya tapi di PDF nya salah tulis Torison Beam

Mazda ngajakin kalian bercanda mungkin ^^
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ajokz wrote:hehe iya tapi di PDF nya salah tulis Torison Beam

Mazda ngajakin kalian bercanda mungkin ^^
Ga salah lah... tuh lihat postingan gw sebelumnya... u/ rear suspension pakai torsion beam
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Yo i Bro maxx.....
mau beli tipe yang mana bro?
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ajokz wrote:Yo i Bro maxx.....
mau beli tipe yang mana bro?
blum tau... ini aja dah kebanyakan mobil nganggur... tuh GL gw beli thn 2007 (dr launching) smp skrg baru pake 8rb KM...
tp sptnya mo lihat2 ford fiesta ... dari foto2 sih interiornya lebih cakep dibanding mazda... maklumin ya bos... gw freak interior .. he he he he..
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yaks... rasio kompresi 10:1
pake pertamax or pertamax plus...
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maxx wrote:
ajokz wrote:hehe iya tapi di PDF nya salah tulis Torison Beam

Mazda ngajakin kalian bercanda mungkin ^^
Ga salah lah... tuh lihat postingan gw sebelumnya... u/ rear suspension pakai torsion beam
Boss maxx belon minum kopi ya? :p Maksudnya PDF spec nya salah spelling..."torison"...yg bener "torsion"