Neo Baleno 2008

Segala mobil tipe sedan (Baleno, Accord, Corrola, dll).

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naldo wrote:Kl 200HP kaya di JWRC si, itu rombaknya mahal bro. Bisa ngabisin berapa ratus juta biar sekenceng itu n N/A? Mobil JWRC aja harganya sekitar 1-2M. Mobil kita2 yang standar, chassisnya ga di kuatin, ga ganti suspensi n rem, bisa bablas ntar di jalan, kagak berhenti... hehehe... Cultus di aussie saya tau bisa 300HP plus. Nanti rencana juga M15A sama tuner mau di jebol 300++, full tune. Tapi harganya cape d bro... Ngabisin buat seharga 1 mobil. Apakah bro niat beli kl bisa segitu? toh 140-150HP juga lumayan buat dialy use n highway. Setidaknya nambah2 30-40HP, biar bensin juga ga boros. Pke turbo baru bisa jadi boros... hehehe
Stuju bouz... Bahkan untuk daily use naik 10hp aja berasa banget kalo mappingnya hp&torque di rpm yang tepat, gak cuma digede2in hp di rev limiter doang kok, toh kita jarang kok full gear di full rpm... Kalo emang pengen bangun mesin balap sih gapapa, udah biasa bangun mobil dgn budget yg bisa berlipat2 dari harga mobil...
Hhmmm, setelah sedikit gw simak lebih dalam SMers memang ternyata banyak yg juragan bermobil dan berduit banyak yah, hebat euy... Kenapa pada gak beli evo, type r, sti atau gtr aja yah?? Lagipula kayane pada jago ngomongin mesin> 200hp.. Udah saatnya tuh bouz punya stock yg 3.5liter v6 twin turbo gitu..
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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stupid question neh, kemaren kan ban gw kempes, pas mau ngedongkrak dr samping (krn gw ganti spare tirenya di basement parkiran gedung) gw rada2 bingung nyari tulang sasisnya sbg dongrak spot hehe.

soalnya sasis yg gw kira sebagai 'dongkrak spot' itu kok kyk dilapis peredam gitu yah? bukan besi doang, ada semacam pelapis kasar2 gitu. akhirnya gw nyari spot yg deket roda.

dimana spot yg paling aman utk dongkrak yah? maklum.. jarang2 ganti roda, biasanya digantiin hahaha :)
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ga masalah bro... itu dilapis anti karat kan, mungkin di titik buat dongkrak... ya itu yg paling aman... kalo deket2 roda, hati2 bisa kehilangan keseimbangan.
yg penting selalu taruh ban dibawah mobil sewaktu ganti ban, setelah terpasang satunya, baru tarik keluar lagi.
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agak oot dkt ney.....

mo nanya duonk ma expert2 mba'leno d sini........

ceritanya belakangan ini gw lg adaptasi bw mba'leno 1.6 ........... tadinya lbh sering bawa apv, jd klo bawa sedan suka kagok....

nah waktu di tes.... gigi 2, pedal gas gw teken flat sama dek.....n mank top speed nya bs sampe sekitar 90 kpj :beer: , pas mo msk gear 3 jalanan dah rada rapet jd msh blm tau hasilnya.

yg jd pertanyaan :

- gear 2 dg topspeed sekitar 90kpj apa termasuk normal?
- pd saat rpm hampir red line.....dg kondisi pedal flat, mesin lsng ndut2an.......kira2 apa ya penyebabnya :e-think: .........analisa kasar gw seh kmungkinan aliran bbm ada yg kotor, membuat aliran bbm agak tersendat..........soalnya klo pedal gas ga d teken sampe flat gtu (rada diurut) mesinnya g ndut2an tu :ungg:
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@doq:

- gear 2 top speed di 90kpj dah hebat tuh bro!
- rpm hampir redline mesin endut2an.. ini sptnya krn engine rev. limit bro! .. tp aneh juga kalo di urut kaga ndut2an, apakah artinya kalo di bejek bensinnya kurang/lebih supply shg ndut2an. .. kalo fuel line kotor.. mau dibejek atau urut.. tetap aja mbrebet bro.
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maxx wrote:@doq:

- gear 2 top speed di 90kpj dah hebat tuh bro!
- rpm hampir redline mesin endut2an.. ini sptnya krn engine rev. limit bro! .. tp aneh juga kalo di urut kaga ndut2an, apakah artinya kalo di bejek bensinnya kurang/lebih supply shg ndut2an. .. kalo fuel line kotor.. mau dibejek atau urut.. tetap aja mbrebet bro.
emanknya mba'leno lama dah ada limiternya ? :e-think:

sry ney bukannya pura2......tp emank beneran o'on hehehehehehe :ungg:
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hmm... kalo ngilangin ndut2an kayanya mesti di tune-up neh... ganti busi dll.. bersihin injektor juga
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Ya kira2 ini kasusnya sama2 karena mobilnya dah agak tua n injectornya kotor, jadi kl narik agak ndut2an. Bro kuras tangki bensin n selang injectornya. Dijamin ga ndut2an kl narik. Biasa, bensin kita kan ada campur airnya so ga murni RON 88
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M15a di aerio sejak baru udah endut2an tuh.. Ampe sekarang...
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Shaqilla wrote:M15a di aerio sejak baru udah endut2an tuh.. Ampe sekarang...
lhaaaa aerio elo kan ga standar, bro... :D
jelas ndut2an, kompresi tinggi gitu...

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poeticmind wrote:
Shaqilla wrote:M15a di aerio sejak baru udah endut2an tuh.. Ampe sekarang...
lhaaaa aerio elo kan ga standar, bro... :D
jelas ndut2an, kompresi tinggi gitu...

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Woy.. Aerio gw standar banged...
Kompresi kepala yg tinggi kalo maced, heheheh....
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Shaqilla wrote:
poeticmind wrote:
Shaqilla wrote:M15a di aerio sejak baru udah endut2an tuh.. Ampe sekarang...
lhaaaa aerio elo kan ga standar, bro... :D
jelas ndut2an, kompresi tinggi gitu...

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Woy.. Aerio gw standar banged...
Kompresi kepala yg tinggi kalo maced, heheheh....
nah itu maksud gue... dimana yg punya kompresi kepala tinggi... pasti mobilnya juga sebanding... haha!

halaaaah... oot nih! mana neo user...!?!! ayo post M15a nya! :P
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Kompresi tinggi sebenernya kepingin pke swift sport punya, tapi CR 1:11. Itu bensin mesti minum pertamax plus... Ga kuat d... Apalagi lagi nungggu turbo, ga mungkin pke CR tinggi2... Sayang juga... Mestinya bisa N/A juga si...
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mending turbo lah bro naldo... instant. kalo N/A ga ada abisnya... malah budget unlimited jadinya. hehe!
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Btul... Btul... Tapi gw tetep, viva n/a!!!! Hehehe....
Soale 40jt dimuka?? Kudu jual kolor beserta isinya tuh, hahaha... :off_good_job:
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Shaqilla wrote:Btul... Btul... Tapi gw tetep, viva n/a!!!! Hehehe....
Soale 40jt dimuka?? Kudu jual kolor beserta isinya tuh, hahaha... :off_good_job:
itulah asiknya N/A bro... tapi buat gue sih, gabungan ke2-2nya... N/A turbo. :)

masih hanya mimpi...
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Gile nih bung poet... j20a full n/a spec masih mau dinaikin rumah keong?? Alamak.. Bisa bisa Bdg jkt cuma 30 menit tuh, hehehe.... :e-think:
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wakakaka ngaco... kan gue bilang mimpi... :D

btw, ada yg tau ga... meski sama2 M15a, kenapa kayaknya agak beda yg exhaust sistem nya... depan sama belakang. pengaruhnya apa ya? hehehe maklum... mesin std. :P
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Sistem exhaust ada yang berbeda di konstruksi SX4-neo dengan Next G. Sekarang memakai CC n juga ada sensor di header. Kemudian bentuk chassisnya, membuat saringan tengah ke belakang dah beda lagi n saringan belakang, berbeda bentuk. Sekarang lagi ada dirumah SX4 sedannya. Enak ganti knalpot, tarikan lebih ada dari standar, padahal dah pke ban 17", tadi di tol ancol sempet 160km/h, or realnya 176km/h.hehehe.... Apalagi turbo ni?? 200++ nembus tapi ga ah... Rem takut ga kuat... hehehe...
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naldo wrote:Sistem exhaust ada yang berbeda di konstruksi SX4-neo dengan Next G. Sekarang memakai CC n juga ada sensor di header. Kemudian bentuk chassisnya, membuat saringan tengah ke belakang dah beda lagi n saringan belakang, berbeda bentuk. Sekarang lagi ada dirumah SX4 sedannya. Enak ganti knalpot, tarikan lebih ada dari standar, padahal dah pke ban 17", tadi di tol ancol sempet 160km/h, or realnya 176km/h.hehehe.... Apalagi turbo ni?? 200++ nembus tapi ga ah... Rem takut ga kuat... hehehe...
Ada sensor di header? Berarti ecunya bener2 beda nih ma oreo/nextg.. Neo/sx4 dah close loop yah?? Berarti bener juga kalo lebih irit terutama kalo dipake cruising di 3000-4000an rpm karena closeloopnya ituh.. Aerio gw aja yg generasi lebih tua kayane mampu kok 200kpj, harusnya neo lebih dari itu dong bouz...
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itulah makanya gue tanya... pasti ada perbedaan, thanks naldo!

@shaqilla : 200? wah, NextG saya sih paling2 mentok di 150, bro! ga bisa lebih. hehe!
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poeticmind wrote:itulah makanya gue tanya... pasti ada perbedaan, thanks naldo!

@shaqilla : 200? wah, NextG saya sih paling2 mentok di 150, bro! ga bisa lebih. hehe!
Tapi 0-402m nya bro poet dapet 15dtk, hehehe......

Bro naldo, bener gak kalo intake neobal/sx4 udah pake termoplastik? Katanya m15a swift udah pake? Gw belum pernah liat sih.. Kalo iya ini salah satu keunggulan lagi karena permukaannya kan udah smooth tanpa perlu polishing... Makin jelas nih perbaikan di m15a dari suzuki.. Kalo swap parts bisa gak sih? Misale I/H/E dari m15a gen sx4/neobal di install di oreo/nextg?? Kalo cuma sensor di header kan bisa ditutup baut tuh...
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emang dudukan nya sama ya? harusnya? pengaruhnya banyak dong kalo lebih smooth? mau dong... :)
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Termoplastik, iya. Ini membuat penyaluran bahan bakar menjadi lebih lancar dibandingkan allumunium cor2an. Makanya lebih kenceng. Header saya si ga berani maen2 d. Takut ECU jadi ngaco kl dah mobil mati, jadi ga lucu lagi d...
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naldo wrote:Termoplastik, iya. Ini membuat penyaluran bahan bakar menjadi lebih lancar dibandingkan allumunium cor2an. Makanya lebih kenceng. Header saya si ga berani maen2 d. Takut ECU jadi ngaco kl dah mobil mati, jadi ga lucu lagi d...
Pas deh dugaan gw, performa intake sx4/neobal sama dengan intake aerio/nextg yang dipolish..-memang bikin flow udara jauh lebih baik, afr tentu bisa diset lebih bagus n ngatur powerbandnya juga enak tuh..kekurangannya, untuk speedfreak intake ini gak bisa di reamer... Header sih no prob bro.. Branded macam hotbits/jitsugen dll yg plug n play udah siap dengan lubang sensornya kok.. custom juga tinggal bikin aja kok yg ptg asal jangan gak dipake aja..
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