Neo Baleno 2008

Segala mobil tipe sedan (Baleno, Accord, Corrola, dll).

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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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kata2 bro naldo ga semua salah. di atas kertas honda emang kenceng.di dyno kadang honda DI BAWAH claim brosur. katanya ada jazz cuma 106 hp,107 hp (padahal brosur 110 hp)

sementara suzuki 100 hp ada yg 104 hp...

tipikalnya sama dengan toyota .. innova ada yg 140 hp (brosur 136)

dan corolla 7A-FE sendiri di brosur 120 hp..di dyno 123 hp (tanya pak Soleh Sigma Speed deh. data yg 7A-FE std gw masi punya)

heheheh

emang paling ideal... drive it, feel it, review it ... please be objective

gitu aja :D
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makanya gue upgrade performance, tyr... karena dulu nextG gue dari pabrikan nya cuman 80HP. ... :ngacir:
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Iya sih bos. Tapi buat perbandingan aja, spec JDM... Disini banyak yang di kurangin si... susahnya disitu aja... Dyno 80HP bos?
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naldo wrote:Iya sih bos. Tapi buat perbandingan aja, spec JDM... Disini banyak yang di kurangin si... susahnya disitu aja... Dyno 80HP bos?
hehehe 80... becanda ah bro! belum pernah di dyno nih, later on lah... :)
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wow 80 hp on wheel sih mayan kenceng tuh... hihihi
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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all new jazz kenceng ? gw akuin iya emang kenceng. tp gw udah pernah melintir di tol merak-jakarta pake all new jazz cbu jdm. suspensi di jalan mulus oke. tp di jalan gak rata, gak janji deh.
jazz vtec yg lama pun kenceng. tp boleh percaya boleh tidak, bisa dijejerin pake starlet di 170 km/h. dgn syarat trek cipularang n tentu sedikit gila drivernya. hehehe...
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koq melintir bos? kenapa? waduh, bad reputation tuh
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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Wah klo jazz Vtec gue bilang ga kenceng,.
Top speednya apalagi,.
kecuali city Type Z tuh,.

Makanya gue heran pemilik jazz banyak yang bangga2in Vtec L 15 nya,.temen gue sampe geleng2 dah,.Padahal pemilik D15 Vtec jarang yang nyombongin kencengnya,.

Klo gue karna belum pernah ngelawan new Jazz gue ga bisa komen,.
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kenceng di top speed bos, kalo dah putaran tinggi baru narik. Kenceng2 banget ya ga. Cuma tarikan bawahnya lemot bener...
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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oh gtu,.maklum ga pernah ngerasain jazz pitek tp klo ngelawan di tol lumayan sering,.cuma ga bakalan garang2 banget lah toh cam nya masih kategori mild kan Vtec e,.masih dibawah city z temen ane pastinya..
Klo corolla 7AFE sangar tuh akselerasi bawah-tengah,.Klo akselerasi atas gue tetep pilih 4AGE ma D 15 VTEC dong,.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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mobil yg gw test drive n menurut gw kenceng (standar):

325i
Camry 3.5Q
Fairlady Z
SC400 (model lama)

sisanya yg masuk kategori lumayan:
CR-V 2.4 : tarikan mayan. tp mengingat itu 2400 cc. jadi termasuk biasa aja sih...
all new altis: tarikan bawah n matiknya responsif.. atasnya kurang
grand vitara: atasnya kurang. ga tau emang test tracknya ga memadai
all new vios: bawah atas mayan tuh.. rasanya lebi enak dari vios lama
ferio: bawahnya kurang enak.. atasnya mayan galak
vios lama: tarikan bawah n atas biasa aja

yg masuk kategori ga kenceng:
harrier 2.4 : bawahnya mayan.. atasnya biasa aja..
neo baleno : bawahnya bolot .. atasnya jg ga gigit. biasa aja
proton gen 2: bawahnya bolot bgt.. atasnya mayan
katana : dah ga perlu gw jelasin kayanya --'
A170 : bolot deh.. padahal triptronic




palagi ya..tar gw tambahin deh

mobil laen? ga pernah nyoba
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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yup,.saya juga mau komen maklum saya suka banget nyobain mobil laen
Mobil Lokal
1500 cc yg kenceng =new Vios ma city z
1600 cc=Corolla GTi,estillo (yang ini karna bobotnya aj,coba rasain di genio,.kerasa biasa aj),.
1800 cc=Lancer GTi Dan Gan,.Altis VVT-i 2004
2000cc eterna GTi,Le Mans mungkin?

Mobil CBU
Honda Prelude ,.Wah nih mobil gue bilang rasanya sama aj kayak cielo,.Mungkin yang gue coba yang F22,bukan H22,.Tarikan berat body juga berat,.ga recommend,.
honda Integra 94,.Ini maunya high RPM trus,.Oktannya minta 100 lai,.dikasih pertamax plus agak knocking,.Kenceng jga,.sayang body agak terlalu ringan,.nice,.
mitsubishi FTO,.Ga ada kencengnya,.lebih kenceng eterna GTi malah,.soalnya yang ane coba yang 4G63 non turbo 145 Hp,.FF,.200 aj berat,.model aj bagus,.minggir aj klo ada yg nantang,.
BMW 328i,.speechless,.Try it,.
Toyota Land Cruiser cygnus,.walah cuma 180km/h,.Malu sama V8 nya,.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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gua sih gak terlalu percaya dgn spec vtec yang ceritanya liar di rpm atas, dibandingkan dengan mesin konvensional.
buktinya kalau estilo dgn city type z, sudah ketahuan lebih serem yg mana hayo?

estilo kan masih pgmfi belum vtec, bisa ketar ketir kalau denger nama estilo.

performance honda accord 2.4L i-vtec DOHC I-4 tetap masih dibawah mesin konvensional galant 2.5L , blm ada mivec, cuma SOHC , tapi V6.
semakin tinggi kecepatannya, selisih waktunya semakin jauh ketinggalan

padahal gua pertama kali lihat spec accord sudah salut pasti performancenya bagus, tapi nyatanya :(
jadi i-vtec ganas di rpm tinggi??? mungkin lebih tepatnya ke efisiensi saat low rpm.
walaupun sebenarnya blm tentu terbukti . cmiiw . PEACE

menurut gua sih lebih condong ke unsur marketing saja. cmiiw PEACE
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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gini om low speed,.
mesin estilo kan D16 sama persis kayak genio,.Coba aj di genio,.kerasa biasa aj,.
ane pernah punya genio,.11-12 lah sama greco,.
Estilo menang ringan aja,.bobotnya ga sampe 900 kilo,.lagian banyakan yg turun di drag dah swap,.estilo juga menang aerodinamika,.

klo Di city Z itu Vtec pure,.Bukan vtec-e kayak ferio,city jazz,accord f23,.Memang ga fun to drive tp rpm atasnya merinding euy,.
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estilo tuh 960 kg. great 1000 kg

city Z 980 kg

yg ga sampe 900 kg = soluna n starlet bos

kalo V6 ama I4 ya udah jelas lah bos enak V6
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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tapi tyr di genio tuh ga ada kenceng2nya,.dugaan gue sih karna bobotnya genio lebih berat,.
Kan mesin sama persis,.
Oh kirain estilo 880 kg jg kayak soluna thanks for correct,.
Kebanyakan estilo yang gue kenal sudah engine swap,.

Enakan I6 dibanding V6,.ha3x,.
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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@paddock & satyr, tadinya juga gua rada pesimis, dengan spec accord segitu pasti hebatlah, wong sudah DOHC dan i-vtec (kelas tertinggi teknologi vtec)

sedangkan galant cuma menang V6 dan lebih 100cc.
tidak teknologi katup, dan masih SOHC.
itu yang membuat gua minder juga lihat spec accord.

tapi setelah liat performancenya, gua jadi sanksi. sorry tdk ada niat menjelekkan.
karena gua pertama kali lihat accord memang impress banget dgn spec mesin yg ditawarkan, dengan spec segitu pasti bisa mengalahkan galant.

coba kalau rekan smers tdk liat video accord dan galant terlebih dahulu, pasti akan menilai spec accord jgn diragukan. gua juga pikir pasti bisa lebih unggul drpd galant.
tapi setelah lihat videonya, baru timbul asumsi galant bisa menang karena sudah V6. logis kan? PEACE :)

kalau estilo, memang top, gua akui 100%.
betul juga kata om paddock . bobot pengaruh sekali,
estilo 970kg, genio 1060kg :)
city Z 980kg.

PEACE
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Re: Neo Baleno 2008

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Hallo,

Lanjut di Part 02 ya...
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