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haristk7 wrote:wah baru tau ada beginian, kebetulan ada pengen ambil unit 2nd W204 AMG Plus warna putihyang udah Panoramic kedepannya (atau yang Coupe sekalian)..

saya penasaran ama reliability W204 untuk long term dari sudut pandang mobil Jerman, hal apa yang harus diperhatikan dan rentan rusak biasanya dibagian mana ? (selain kaki2)
w204 boleh ambil mas, dipakenya enak dan tahan.
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thanks om @aspsilver ama om @hmulyo

berarti W204 ini termasuk reliable dan bullet proof ya untuk mobil Jerman ? soalnya denger2 kalo masa ISP nya udah lewat ini mobil mulai penyakitan.. :mky_01:
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kalo kita bandingkan w204 ini dg :

E90 325 LCI vs GOLF GTI mk5 vs W204 C250

worthed yg mana om? sec range hrg berdekatan
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Golf MK6 kali, MK5 udah tua.

itu kenceng abis, tapi suspensi keras abis juga.

BMW, gak punya pengalaman.

but C250 itu irit bensin, gak beda jauh sama Yaris. tapi power 2x lipat.

mercedes dan BMW jauh lebih nyolok dan menarik perhatian daripada VW Golf.
interior juga lebih mewah daripada VW.

cuman VW lebih kencang dari mereka berdua.

kalo gak salah C250 lebih powerful daripada 325i

kalo saya sih lebih seneng Mercedes Benz C250 dari 3 itu.
kalo BMW 325 lebih murah jauh daripada C250, boleh dipikirkan.
kalo harga sama atau deket, beli mercy deh
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Ane bilang buat daily use si C250, lebih worthed and lebih bulletproof dr jerman2 lainnya di range itu lebih mudah dirawat dan banyak enaknya di berbagai sisi
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mantap commentnya om2 diatas,
galau jg klo hrs pilih slh satu tuh

bmw 325lci top di performance en handling--rwd
merc c250 di luxury, but lack engagement driving exp--rwd
golf gti : enak di tarikan turbona, tp setinggi2nya ngoprek tetap kebatas dg FWD drivenya.

325 lci 2012 m edition, afaik di kepala 4 pasaran,
output di 218hp/torque di atas 200nm an.
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C250, handling nya enak lho.
saya sih belum pernah bawa BMW jangka panjang, but itu gak kalah.

C250 204HP 310Nm

0-100 km/h 7.2
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Wah gawat ini, jadi makin ngiler ama W204, fix lah kedepannya kalo udah ada rejeki mau minang satu deh, harus siapin dompet dan mental juga kayaknya untuk biaya perawatannya :mky_01:
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yang pasti jauh lebih enak dan durable dibandingkan w203, generasi sebelumnya.
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Sy pakai w204 c200 thn 2011 belum FL. Dan sy kbetulan baru beli bmw baru F30 320i. Luxury trim. Dibandingkan, utk kenyamanan,mercy masih menang. Sopir sy aja bilang enakan mercy. Bmw ya utk performance,oke lah. Driving experience. Comfort msh w204 lebih enak sy bilang. Dulu pernah melihara 318i thn 2003. Beli 2nd. Mgkn lg sial,suka mogok. Jajan'nya mahal. Pakai setahun,depak.... Ga kuat lg nih hati dan kantong ngeladenin. Ya mgkn lg sial kali dpt yg kurang bagus.

Inti'nya klo mau nyaman,tarikan enak menurut sy cukup lah C200 tapi yg CGI.
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sy kebetulan sering pake c250 avg amg 2013 akhir2 ini, menurut sy sih biasa2 aja ya utk ukuran merc. mesin walaupun cukup irit bisa 1:8/9an tapi kurang begitu smooth dibandingin mesin i6 bmw dan masih berasa turbo lag. yg versi amg sport pack bantingan juga agak stiff dan ground clearance lebih pendek dibandingin yg biasa.

sy saran mau ambil w204 cari yg c280/c300 v6, yg plg oke itu dan best value versi awal 2007-2009 c280 yg avg amg pack soalnya setelah itu c300 hanya keluar yg versi avg, amgnya sudah tdk keluar. baru keluar lagi di 2013 akhir barengan dgn c250 avg amg plus.

kelebihan nya w204 v6 sudah ada advanced agility mode, mirip2 sport+nya bmw.
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Turboman wrote:Parts2 MB kalo yg fast moving / medium moving banyak yg affordable, bahkan byk yg lebih murah dr parts Japanese cars

Why ?

Salah 1 nya krn MB byk dipake jadi Taxi
Gak heran MB MB type lawas masi byk berkeliaran / disukai

Mobil2 MB juga disukai bengkel2 krn parts-nya mudah, ini hasil interview sy dgnbyk bengkel swasta

Mobil2 MB gak melulu berkonotasi dgn "mahal".......silakan interview member2 komunitas W124

MB MB yg mahal / super mahal malah yg 2 doors antique.......Pagoda, Gullwing, etc
mas, boleh minta email bengkel yang rekomended utk check 2nd W140 tahun 1997 kah ?
email saya : [email protected]

thanks before
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Boleh ke
toko 74, gunung sahari, di ruko2 sebelah d best.

BM service di jalan garuda, arah kemayoran sebelah kiri, depan Toyota/pool bluebird, sebelah KIA.

itu langganan saya.
Lumayan kerjanya ok.
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aspsilver wrote:Boleh ke
toko 74, gunung sahari, di ruko2 sebelah d best.

BM service di jalan garuda, arah kemayoran sebelah kiri, depan Toyota/pool bluebird, sebelah KIA.

itu langganan saya.
Lumayan kerjanya ok.
noted, tks infonya mas.

saya ada rencana mau murtad dari swedia, skrg pake s90 exe daily. mudah2an cocok
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thestoneroses wrote:
aspsilver wrote:Boleh ke
toko 74, gunung sahari, di ruko2 sebelah d best.

BM service di jalan garuda, arah kemayoran sebelah kiri, depan Toyota/pool bluebird, sebelah KIA.

itu langganan saya.
Lumayan kerjanya ok.
noted, tks infonya mas.

saya ada rencana mau murtad dari swedia, skrg pake s90 exe daily. mudah2an cocok
Nanti kangen sama empuknya shock nivomat S90 exe looh... :mky_03:
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thestoneroses wrote:
aspsilver wrote:Boleh ke
toko 74, gunung sahari, di ruko2 sebelah d best.

BM service di jalan garuda, arah kemayoran sebelah kiri, depan Toyota/pool bluebird, sebelah KIA.

itu langganan saya.
Lumayan kerjanya ok.
noted, tks infonya mas.

saya ada rencana mau murtad dari swedia, skrg pake s90 exe daily. mudah2an cocok
kalo dari s90 mending ambil w212 mas, sekelas.
kalo ke w204 turun kelas.
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hmulyo wrote:
thestoneroses wrote:
aspsilver wrote:Boleh ke
toko 74, gunung sahari, di ruko2 sebelah d best.

BM service di jalan garuda, arah kemayoran sebelah kiri, depan Toyota/pool bluebird, sebelah KIA.

itu langganan saya.
Lumayan kerjanya ok.
noted, tks infonya mas.

saya ada rencana mau murtad dari swedia, skrg pake s90 exe daily. mudah2an cocok
kalo dari s90 mending ambil w212 mas, sekelas.
kalo ke w204 turun kelas.
@amfibi: haha betul juga mas

@kang handy: ralat kang, rencana mau ambil w140 kang, bukan w204.
thanks anyway kang
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very good choice.
i'm also a big fan of w140.
ambil barang superB, dijamin happy.
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mau tanya lagi, masih galau nih..

andai kata nggak ambil W204 C250 Facelift Panoramic, pengen ambil W212 E400 AMG atau ML250CDI/ML400 W166..kira2 dari W212 atau W166 demen rewel dimana ya ? bullet proof kayak W204 kah ?

ML class saya pengen ambil antara bensin atau diesel..diesel karena irit dan semoga kedepannya ketersediaan Pertadex makin merata di Indonesia..kalo belom merata banget ya ambil ML400. Kalo E class, kenapa E400 ? saya kurang demen ama E250 dan pengen mobil bertenaga gede buat perjalanan jauh, apalagi kalo jalanan udah pada mulus semua, wuenak..itu aja hehehe
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*IMHO, mobil harga >800 juta kok nyaris semua konsumen lebih concern fuel efficiency daripada engine/exhaust note?

Kalo saya lebih baik bensin boros macem 1:6-7 tapi dapat engine/exhaust rumble. Contoh c250 vs c300 W204. C250 superior dari C300 on paper in terms of efficiency and performance. Kalo reproduksi suara mesin dan exhaust? Seringkali saya denger 200/250 series turbo yang suaranya ga beda jauh Yaris/Civic riced out..pernah juga coba testdrive C250 karib yang *katanya* sudah pake catback Supersprint bla bla.. coba ditarik ke rpm tinggi..kenceng banget nariknya, pas denger suaranya kok jepangan gini ya :big_slap: apalagi kalo dibanding C300 sudah pasang X-Pipe/catback system....jauuuuuhhhhhh :ungg:


*kalo mau irit ya hariannya pake yang irit, macem d4d diesel #eh :ngacir:
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haristk7 wrote:mau tanya lagi, masih galau nih..

andai kata nggak ambil W204 C250 Facelift Panoramic, pengen ambil W212 E400 AMG atau ML250CDI/ML400 W166..kira2 dari W212 atau W166 demen rewel dimana ya ? bullet proof kayak W204 kah ?

ML class saya pengen ambil antara bensin atau diesel..diesel karena irit dan semoga kedepannya ketersediaan Pertadex makin merata di Indonesia..kalo belom merata banget ya ambil ML400. Kalo E class, kenapa E400 ? saya kurang demen ama E250 dan pengen mobil bertenaga gede buat perjalanan jauh, apalagi kalo jalanan udah pada mulus semua, wuenak..itu aja hehehe

ga tunggu W205 C400 rist? sounds good for a pocket rocket :mky_02:


daripada E Limousine, mending E400 Coupé :big_comfort:
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imingwahyudi wrote:*IMHO, mobil harga >800 juta kok nyaris semua konsumen lebih concern fuel efficiency daripada engine/exhaust note?

Kalo saya lebih baik bensin boros macem 1:6-7 tapi dapat engine/exhaust rumble. Contoh c250 vs c300 W204. C250 superior dari C300 on paper in terms of efficiency and performance. Kalo reproduksi suara mesin dan exhaust? Seringkali saya denger 200/250 series turbo yang suaranya ga beda jauh Yaris/Civic riced out..pernah juga coba testdrive C250 karib yang *katanya* sudah pake catback Supersprint bla bla.. coba ditarik ke rpm tinggi..kenceng banget nariknya, pas denger suaranya kok jepangan gini ya :big_slap: apalagi kalo dibanding C300 sudah pasang X-Pipe/catback system....jauuuuuhhhhhh :ungg:


*kalo mau irit ya hariannya pake yang irit, macem d4d diesel #eh :ngacir:
ya karena pabrikannya juga pada concern ke fuel efficiency dan kenyamanan minkies.... :big_dunno: hari ini kalo kepengen mobil german dengan engine/exhaust note enak, cuma dapet di versi flagship (335i/535i/C400/E400)... itupun turbocharged semua. jelas beda sensasi nariknya ama NA.

wa rasa kalo kepengen bener-bener menikmati engine/exhaust note kalo yang berduit mungkin bisa beli Jaguar XF 3.0 (mesin sama ama XJ 3.0, V6 supercharged), Jaguar F-Type V8 (ini suaranya cekcih banget....)....

untuk kalangan duit pas-pasan kayak ane mending nadahin seken aja.... BMW 325i E90 atau 330i E90.... :big_childish: the glorious 6-cylinders N/A. tapi wa tetep a fan of VTEC sih.... jadi mungkin kalo ada duit nadahin EK9 Civic R atau DC2 Integra R duluan.... :big_grin:

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atauuu...

nyetir nya mobil apa aj...


tapi sambil nyetir, pake earphone trus stel video2 dari yutub ttg enjin note nya ferrari, atau bimmer dgn 6 cylinder... etc etc... sambil ngebayangin lg nyetir mobil2 tsb....


# problem solved... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

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numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:atauuu...

nyetir nya mobil apa aj...


tapi sambil nyetir, pake earphone trus stel video2 dari yutub ttg enjin note nya ferrari, atau bimmer dgn 6 cylinder... etc etc... sambil ngebayangin lg nyetir mobil2 tsb....


# problem solved... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

# balik ntn FF lg ahh.. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:atauuu...

nyetir nya mobil apa aj...


tapi sambil nyetir, pake earphone trus stel video2 dari yutub ttg enjin note nya ferrari, atau bimmer dgn 6 cylinder... etc etc... sambil ngebayangin lg nyetir mobil2 tsb....


# problem solved... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

# balik ntn FF lg ahh.. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
kalo itu mah di BMW i8, Renaultsport Clio dan Mustang Ecoboost udah ada oom klep, malah lebih canggih suara dari speaker bisa seakan-akan mirip "suara aslinya" :big_slap:

dah yuk bahasan engine notesnya dilanjut disini

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21766&p=776623&hili ... es#p776623
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