[HELP] Bingung apa sudah saatnya Baleno ane "Turun Mesin"???

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[HELP] Bingung apa sudah saatnya Baleno ane "Turun Mesin"???

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Malem agan2,newbie mau nanya nih,ane ada boil baleno thn.2000 kilometer baru jalan 109rb,tadi pagi masuk bengkel dengan keluhan setiap kali awal dipanasin pasti keluar asap putih kurang lebih 10-15menitan,habis itu hilang,dipakai jalan pun asap putih gak muncul lagi,kata pihak bengkel si bahenol ane udah saatnya turun mesin,hadew,denger kata turun mesin langsung lemes ane,tahu sendirikan biaya turun mesin berape??bagi2 senior2 yg tahu dan mengerti tentang mesin,apakah memang harus sudah saatnya turun mesin nih boil,padahal keluhan boil ane cuman itu doang,dipake jalan harian juga masih oke,mohon sarannya suhu2,makasih...
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Untuk masalah Baleno, coba kontak member doq, rasanya beliau cukup paham masalah mobil ini.

Kalau berasap gara2 ring piston bocor, kayaknya cukup turun setengah mesin saja (top overhaul)

Kira2 apa ada gejala pengurangan oli mesin yg berlebihan?
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Kemungkinan terbesar oli mesin sudah masuk ke ruang bakar. Tapi pertanyaannya, darimana? Ada beberapa kemungkinan :
1. Dari seal klep
2. Dari valve guide (bos klep)
3. Ring piston
4. Liner/boring sudah 'ngantong'

diperiksa dulu dari yang paling mudah dan murah,
a. Apakah oli mesin berkurang?
b. Saat mesin hidup, angkat dipstick, kalau ada uap/asap tipis itu pertanda ring piston harus diganti.
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marmut wrote:Kemungkinan terbesar oli mesin sudah masuk ke ruang bakar. Tapi pertanyaannya, darimana? Ada beberapa kemungkinan :
1. Dari seal klep
2. Dari valve guide (bos klep)
3. Ring piston
4. Liner/boring sudah 'ngantong'

diperiksa dulu dari yang paling mudah dan murah,
a. Apakah oli mesin berkurang?
b. Saat mesin hidup, angkat dipstick, kalau ada uap/asap tipis itu pertanda ring piston harus diganti.
Setuju bro
Kayaknya sepele kok ini
Hanya seal klep aja
Jadi pas mesin mati sebagian oli di ruang pelatuk klep turun lewat celah2 seal klep
Besokannya pas dihidupin oli yg turun tadi karena berada di ruang bakar jadi ikut terbakar, jadi asap deh
Sampai saat oli di ruang bakar tadi habis ya abis juga asap putihnya
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Alooo oom broz :mrgreen:
Baru 109rb kilo ya? Wah.....masa udah mesti turun mesin?
Sebelum nya nanya dulu nih;
Tinggal dimana oom broz? Trus mobil parkir diruangan terbuka apa tertutup? Please note, suhu udara serta tempat parkir pengaruh sama kadar uap air yg berkumpul di exhaust system...........
semakin dingin suhu sekitar maka semakin banyak uap air yg ngumpul........hasil nya ya knalpot bakal berasap saat pertama dipanasin, klo ga percaya coba nginep di puncak dan panasin mobil pd pagi hari.......dijamin tebel "asap" nya.
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Nah...nongol juga :mky_03:
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Klo udah di summon meneer imsus ane jd ga enak body :mky_03:
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Re: Btw......baenol saya jg lg turun mesin total nih :mky_03

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tuh....baenol sy jg lg turun mesin total :mky_03:
Mileage sekitar 300rb kilo, keluhan; oli muncrat dr kenalpot :big_slap:
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Wah akhirnya balenonya mod doq mau dibangkitkan dari kubur lagi :D
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doq wrote:tuh....baenol sy jg lg turun mesin total :mky_03:
Mileage sekitar 300rb kilo, keluhan; oli muncrat dr kenalpot :big_slap:
the SM legend of baenol.... *lagi turun mesin :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

wahh 300 rb baru turun mesin.... uda mirip mobil niaga aja nehh om dog...

btw, enjin blok nya baenol ternyata masi cast iron yah... pantes kuat.. :upss: :upss: :upss: :upss: :upss:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Yup........rebuilding: decepticon :big_smoking:
Gara2 pnp di pocimin nih...........akhir nya mesti turun mesin, maklum setelah pnp dulu ga bisa nyantai bawa nya di tol :mky_03:
Akhir nya boss klep-seal klep-piston-ring piston mengibarkan bendera putih :big_slap:
Turun mesin total aja sekalian dah, ganti metal2 juga :e-think:
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buset piston ampe kaput jg... itu gmana cara nya om dog... hehehehe...

berarti abis ini oversize donk...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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om mods, nanti dulu bahas mobil om doq... ini TS nya ke mana? belum jawab pertanyaan om doq...
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oversize gocap aja oom, udah selesai rebuilding mesin sih.......malah udah naek dan nyala lagi. Yg banyak itu jajan printilan nya..........maklum nganggur 2 taunan :ungg:
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TS nya lg nongkrong di bengkel kali? Kata nya udah terlanjur masuk bengkel ya? :e-think:
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doq wrote:TS nya lg nongkrong di bengkel kali? Kata nya udah terlanjur masuk bengkel ya? :e-think:
yang penting jawab pertanyaan2 ini dulu
marmut wrote:Kemungkinan terbesar oli mesin sudah masuk ke ruang bakar. Tapi pertanyaannya, darimana? Ada beberapa kemungkinan :
1. Dari seal klep
2. Dari valve guide (bos klep)
3. Ring piston
4. Liner/boring sudah 'ngantong'

diperiksa dulu dari yang paling mudah dan murah,
a. Apakah oli mesin berkurang?
b. Saat mesin hidup, angkat dipstick, kalau ada uap/asap tipis itu pertanda ring piston harus diganti.
doq wrote:Alooo oom broz :mrgreen:
Baru 109rb kilo ya? Wah.....masa udah mesti turun mesin?
Sebelum nya nanya dulu nih;
Tinggal dimana oom broz? Trus mobil parkir diruangan terbuka apa tertutup? Please note, suhu udara serta tempat parkir pengaruh sama kadar uap air yg berkumpul di exhaust system...........
semakin dingin suhu sekitar maka semakin banyak uap air yg ngumpul........hasil nya ya knalpot bakal berasap saat pertama dipanasin, klo ga percaya coba nginep di puncak dan panasin mobil pd pagi hari.......dijamin tebel "asap" nya.
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coba di pm aj mod kopat kalo mau ts nya jawab tuh pertanyaan2...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:coba di pm aj mod kopat kalo mau ts nya jawab tuh pertanyaan2...
TS belum bisa PM, new member. nunggu 10 post dulu baru bisa PM.. hehehe..
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imsus2c wrote:Untuk masalah Baleno, coba kontak member doq, rasanya beliau cukup paham masalah mobil ini.

Kalau berasap gara2 ring piston bocor, kayaknya cukup turun setengah mesin saja (top overhaul)

Kira2 apa ada gejala pengurangan oli mesin yg berlebihan?
Klo soal gejala pengurangan olie mesin ya wajarlah gan tpi gak berlebihan kok jadi ya ane harus rajin2 ngecheck
doq wrote:Alooo oom broz :mrgreen:
Baru 109rb kilo ya? Wah.....masa udah mesti turun mesin?
Sebelum nya nanya dulu nih;
Tinggal dimana oom broz? Trus mobil parkir diruangan terbuka apa tertutup? Please note, suhu udara serta tempat parkir pengaruh sama kadar uap air yg berkumpul di exhaust system...........
semakin dingin suhu sekitar maka semakin banyak uap air yg ngumpul........hasil nya ya knalpot bakal berasap saat pertama dipanasin, klo ga percaya coba nginep di puncak dan panasin mobil pd pagi hari.......dijamin tebel "asap" nya.
Allo juga gan doq,salam kenal dari newbie :big_love: :big_grin:

iya nih km baru 109rb,makanya ane bingung,padahal pemakaian wajar,ane tinggal di semarang gan biasanya mobil ane parkir di garasi,klo pas gak sempat masukkin garasi parkir diluar,kondisi juga sama,pertama kali distater (dipanasin) pasti keluar asap putih dikit terus abis itu ilang selang bbrp lama,oya kayaknya agak sedikit bau2 olie kebakar gitu tpi cuman sebentar habis itu semua kembali normal,gmn gan??apa yg harus ane lakuin?? :big_bored: :big_dunno:
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Kalau asap putih gak ada lagi setelah panas si kemungkinan besar uap air.
Kalo seal klep udah bocor mesin panas sekalipun tetep keluar asap putih tapi tipis banget.
Kalo asap putih lumayan pekat, ya turun mesin.

Tapi sebenarnya ring seher rompal sekalipun kalau boringan masih bagus perbedaan tenaga gak terlalu signifikan, kok.
Coba tanya poeticmind yang heran ada mobil yang silinder sudah basah oli tapi masih anteng digeber di atas 150 km/h.
Tapi bunyi metal beradunya yang bikin hati miris.
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kalo possible mah jual ganti aja om..
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BangBrozz069 wrote:
imsus2c wrote:Untuk masalah Baleno, coba kontak member doq, rasanya beliau cukup paham masalah mobil ini.

Kalau berasap gara2 ring piston bocor, kayaknya cukup turun setengah mesin saja (top overhaul)

Kira2 apa ada gejala pengurangan oli mesin yg berlebihan?
Klo soal gejala pengurangan olie mesin ya wajarlah gan tpi gak berlebihan kok jadi ya ane harus rajin2 ngecheck
doq wrote:Alooo oom broz :mrgreen:
Baru 109rb kilo ya? Wah.....masa udah mesti turun mesin?
Sebelum nya nanya dulu nih;
Tinggal dimana oom broz? Trus mobil parkir diruangan terbuka apa tertutup? Please note, suhu udara serta tempat parkir pengaruh sama kadar uap air yg berkumpul di exhaust system...........
semakin dingin suhu sekitar maka semakin banyak uap air yg ngumpul........hasil nya ya knalpot bakal berasap saat pertama dipanasin, klo ga percaya coba nginep di puncak dan panasin mobil pd pagi hari.......dijamin tebel "asap" nya.
Allo juga gan doq,salam kenal dari newbie :big_love: :big_grin:

iya nih km baru 109rb,makanya ane bingung,padahal pemakaian wajar,ane tinggal di semarang gan biasanya mobil ane parkir di garasi,klo pas gak sempat masukkin garasi parkir diluar,kondisi juga sama,pertama kali distater (dipanasin) pasti keluar asap putih dikit terus abis itu ilang selang bbrp lama,oya kayaknya agak sedikit bau2 olie kebakar gitu tpi cuman sebentar habis itu semua kembali normal,gmn gan??apa yg harus ane lakuin?? :big_bored: :big_dunno:
kondisi mesin gimana oom? Standar apa udah pnp? Sering hirev ga?
klo mesin standar trus jarang hirev, maka normal nya pengurangan oli hanya sedikit di interval penggantian oli, mungkin ga sampe 300ml cmiiw coba dicek dulu oom
Imho sih keluar "asap" saat pertama dipanasin ya wajar........dengan catatan hanya asap tipis aja yah, dan tidak ada gejala abnormal di sektor performa.
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1. berasapnya kalo pagi hari saat dipanaskan?
2. dan saat berasap itu bau oli terbakar?
3. kalo setelah asap habis, mesin sudah idup normal, kecium bau asap gak?

kemungkinan jawaban:
1 dan 2 Ya, dan 3 tidak, maka kemungkinan bocor dari cyl head ke silinder. netes di malam hari setelah jalan lama. ini bisa jadi packing antara cyl head dan blok mesin.

1 dan 2 ya, dan 3 ya, kemungkinan packing2 atau ring2 piston...

1 ya, 2 tidak, dan 3 tidak, itu seperti yang om doq bilang. cuman sekedar pengembunan di knalpot.
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