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Re: Kekurangan Suzuki

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hmm apa itu differensialnya yah yg kurang bagus...
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GTR wrote:hmm apa itu differensialnya yah yg kurang bagus...
differensial? yg ini untuk apa nih Bro...sori, nubie....hubungan nya ke yg ber decit itu yah?
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utk membedakan jumlah putaran roda kiri dan kanan (pd sumbu roda yg sama) saat berbelok, krn saat belok kan jarak tempuh roda kiri dan kanan berbeda.
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LSD maksudnya? kalo itu di escud ampe gv gak ada bro
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justru memang harus tidak ada agar tidak berdecit; kalo pake LSD kan malah perbedaan jumlah putaran roda kiri dan kanan akan ter-limit.
nah sepertinya berdecit ini karena performa differensial nya kurang bagus, tenaga masih agak ada tersalurkan ke roda yg jumlah putarannya sedikit/sisi dalam (harusnya full ke roda yg jumlah putarannya banyak/sisi luar).
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ggitu ya bro, gw gak ngerti nih...
setau gw, kalo pake LSD, secara otomatis tenaga akan tersalurkan berbeda ke roda ssi dgn traksi masing2 roda tsb
Kalo gak pake LSD malah, mau belok , ada ato ada traksi/ tdk ada traksi , tenaga dari mesin ya langsung ke 4 roda.
Eh bener gak ya...cmiiw yaa..
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iya makanya kalo tanpa LSD, tenaga tersalur ke sisi roda yg beban nya lebih kecil, dalam hal ini sisi luar roda ketika belok.
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bukannya mobil2 spt Ipah ,city ato apanja jg gak ada LSD khan, tetapi mereka gak berdecit ...bingung juga ....
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Abu2 wrote:
Nah, gw coba ganjel dengen glasswool tebel 1.5 cm, di kiri kanan shock...hasilnya, adem banget, span, ketat presisi, gak bunyi lagi...baru kali ini terasa nikmat ngerasain suspensi depan yg adem dan mantap setelah punya GV lebih dari 1 taon...ha..ha.h..ah.ah.. Makin cinta gw ama GV... :D

pertanyaannya :
1. knapa mesti di ganjel. ?
2. Selama ini mondar mandir ke beres, tp knapa gak tersolusikan..?

Only Suzy knows. ..... :D
bagian ini selalu terlewatkan oleh bengkel resmi. memang... tapi jika bro dateng ke bengkel kaki2 langsung dipasang karet bushing custom... hasilnya seperti yg bro katakan... jadi adem... :)
glasswool? kena air gapapa tuh bro?
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sebenarnya gw lebih ingin pake karet ban luar yg di custom bentuknya, atau karton paking tebel 2 cm > yg ini pasti gak ada ya, karna setau gw paking paling tebel itu 0.8mm . Tp karena karet ban luar harus order di luar bengkel, dan bengkel jg kasi solusi pake glaswool tebel, dan sempat gw tanyain daya tahannya thd air dan tekanan.. yg bersangkutan bilang gpp, jadinya pake glasswool deh,.
Ntar kalo udah gak bagus lagi, ya bongkar lagi deh Bro.. :))

eh, tp kemarin baru ngerasin , masih ada bunyi "Glek", tp dikit banget..ya gapapa lah..dah jauh benget lebih enak.. :D
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justru hampir semua mobil itu adalah tidak pakai LSD agar mudah saat berbelok tidak berdecit.
kalo pakai LSD malah makin membatasi perbedaan yg terlalu jauh jumlah putaran roda kiri & kanan.
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kenapa ya penyakit suzy dari jaman baheula itu tak pernah diperbaiki
termasuk dashboard baru 6 bulan saja mulai bunyi kretek2.. klotak2...
kasih lapisan karet kek ato apa kek gitu
kelebihannya cuman model, feature, bandel, dan harga yang nyaman
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Udah dari sononya... Sesuai dengan jawaban mekanik :). Penyakit Suzuki yang gw pantau sih cuma dashboard bunyi2 setelah beberapa lama. Bukan penyakit penting, bisa diberesin dengan mudah... Tapi kalau bisa sih gak kenapa2 dari awal...

Oh ya, penyakit Suzuki juga... Kalau produknya udah mulai masuk fase phase out, pasti harga dibanting abis2an. Kan ngejatuhin harga pasar model sama tapi tahun tua.
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sektor transmisi masih agak ketinggalan.
kalo yg a/t, masih konvensional & kurang tangkas.
kalo yg m/t, kurang bisa dilakukan dgn cepat jg pindah2 giginya.
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Midi_Amp wrote:Udah dari sononya... Sesuai dengan jawaban mekanik :). Penyakit Suzuki yang gw pantau sih cuma dashboard bunyi2 setelah beberapa lama. Bukan penyakit penting, bisa diberesin dengan mudah... Tapi kalau bisa sih gak kenapa2 dari awal...
Yupz, saya setuju, kenapa ga dibuat 'silent' dari awal ya? Kmaren saya habis ngelapis doortrim tailgate Swift ST saya pake busa setebel 3cm, cuma bayar 25ribu di spesialis jok+doortrim+peredam, skarang dah ga brisik lagi. Kmaren waktu di bongkar doortrimnya, buseeet, tipis banget, saya kira punya Yaris saya uda tipis, ternyata ada yang lebih tipis lagi, adu2, kualitasnya dasar Suzuki emang kurang memuaskan... Las-lasan yang keliatan kalo tailgatenya dibuka juga ga rapi samaskali tuh...
Untungnya mesin, transmisi, & suspensi ga ada masalah apa-apa (belum ada masalah & jangan sampe ada masalah, hehehe)
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ow... swift tipis ya?! wah wah... kalo NextG saya tebel banget... apalagi doortrim nya. cuma sayangnya, bagian elbow rest di doortrim pake fabric, nah ini rentan kotor euy... pengen nya diganti kulit lebih enak...
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Yupz, semua panel tipis malah. Kayaknya yang GL ga gini deh. Mungkin cuma ST yang begini.
Wa, saya malah suka kalo banyak bagian fabricnya di doortrim, kayak Yaris gitu, kalo dilapis kulit / sintetis, bagian yang dilapis bakal banyak & bakal keliatan mewah banget. :angel:
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ddaru wrote:Yupz, semua panel tipis malah. Kayaknya yang GL ga gini deh. Mungkin cuma ST yang begini.
Wa, saya malah suka kalo banyak bagian fabricnya di doortrim, kayak Yaris gitu, kalo dilapis kulit / sintetis, bagian yang dilapis bakal banyak & bakal keliatan mewah banget. :angel:
iya nih... :e-whistle:

di xtrel malah door trimnya plastik semua... :e-doh:
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Tapi plastiknya lumayan bermutu khan?
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ddaru wrote:Tapi plastiknya lumayan bermutu khan?
plastiknya sih rapi & presisi... :e-snooty:

tapi gampang tergores oleh benda spt jam tangan, cincin, dll... :e-doh:
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Re: Kekurangan Suzuki

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Ya ga usa digores-gores kalo gitu, ehehehe... :mrgreen:
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ddaru wrote:Ya ga usa digores-gores kalo gitu, ehehehe... :mrgreen:
yg namanya tergores kan pasti ga sengaja... :e-doh:
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poeticmind wrote:ow... swift tipis ya?! wah wah... kalo NextG saya tebel banget... apalagi doortrim nya. cuma sayangnya, bagian elbow rest di doortrim pake fabric, nah ini rentan kotor euy... pengen nya diganti kulit lebih enak...
Langsung aja diganti.. kan punya "garasi".. hehehe..
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Re: Kekurangan Suzuki

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kalo gak sengaja gpp, disengajaim digores baru itu tdk boleh....ha...ha...ha
Eh, gw peratiin kalo di gv, doortrim nya lumayan lah bahan plastik nya. Hanya,panel yg bagian belakang, yg dari plastik, cuma diikat pake klip aja, jd nya gak span nempel ke bodi bag dlm. Gmn yah caranya kira2, untuk bikin span panel bag dalam tsb? Dipadetin pake busa 3cm kayak bro ddarui bikin di swiftnya, ato dibagian klipnya di padat in pakai double tape aja ya...?
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Coba dilapisin pake busa aja bro. Dikerjain sendiri aja bisa kok, kmaren karena saya lagi malez aja trus saya bawa ke spesialis jok+doortrim+peredam. Tinggal beli busa setebel 3cm secukupnya sama lem fox. Busa dipotong sesuai bentuk doortrim, trus dibagian klip/klepnya dibolongin biar tetep bisa nempel. Begitu udah pas, trus dilem aja busanya. Tunggu kering bentar, trus pasang lagi, beres deh.