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Bikin kilap cat mobil

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Halo suhu sm sekalian... Mau cari info nih..

Sx4 ane udah menuju 8 tahun... Ane merasa cat warna hitam nya kyk kusam2 gitu ya walopun ga kusam banget...

Kemaren lg cuci mobil di daerah pm, liat mobil lain di poles cakep bener jadi kilat item nya...

Jadi yg ane mau tanyakan.. Poles itu jenis2 nya apa aja? Ad yg wax, paint protection.. Ane ga ngerti.. Maklum nubi..hehe

Trus merusak cat asli ga ya?? Tahan berapa lama?? Apakah perubahannya signifikan??

Maap byk tanya... Mohon masukkannya...
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Intinya, buat mobil yg 'cat nya udah jelek' itu mesti dianalisa dulu, kasus per kasus.

Istilah 'cat kusam' bisa beberapa kasus:

1) cat memang udah rusak/tipis/rusak top coatingnya.

- bisa karena badly weathered (misal terekspose panas terus menerus berdurasi lama)

- bisa karena perawatan yg salah SOP/kasar/asal2an

2) bisa hanya karena deposit segala jenis kontaminan dr luar (residu aspal/tar, kotoran burung/bird drop, getah pohon/tree sap, kerak air/water spot, dll)

3) bisa karena cat sudah cacat (terlalu banyak goresan/baret/swirl/spider web)

Dr kasus di atas baru bisa ditentukan langkah dan produk apa yg harus dipake.

Kl cat memang udah rusak permanen/tipis. Mau ngga mau repaint.

Kl krn kontaminan, ya harus dicompound/claying.

Kl krn baret2 parah ya harus dikoreksi dulu.

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Paint correction, lanjut polishing (paint rejunevating), lanjut top coating.

Compound/paint cleaner dan sejenisnya masuk di step correction.

Polish dll masuk di tahap polishing, meremajakan lg si cat, setelah dikoreksi semua cacatnya dan setelah semua kontaminan dilenyapkan.

Wax dll paint protection apapun bahan dasarnya masuk di step coating. Melapisi cat, sebagai barrier pertama terhadap semua kontaminan dr luar.

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Merusak cat asli?

Ya kl ketemu detailer abal2 idiot. Tidak kl ketemu detailer beneran, cat akan terawat dan awet. jauh lebih awet drpd cat yg tdk dirawat.

Tahan brp lama? Tergantung bahan dasar, tergantung SOP aplikasi.

Apakah signifikan before vs after? Sama jawaban dgn 2 di atas.

Intinya, tergntung bahan dan man behind the gun. Juga duit. Kilap murah ama mahal beda. Tp yg ridiculously pricing sperti zymol mah anggep aja too much gimmick dan worth nothing lah.

Bahan bagus detailer goblog ya percuma. Mo detailer profesional terbaik kl cm dibekalin Kit kuning ya ga bakal ngangkat.
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Re: Bikin kilap cat mobil

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nahh udah dijawab lengkap sama oom NG :mky_02:

nambahin sedikit, kalau untuk urusan berapa lama bertahannya setelah dipoles, itu juga tergantung dari seberapa telaten kita maintenancenya. semacam swirl atau scratch pasti bakalan muncul lagi sih, cuman seberapa cepat munculnya, balik lagi ke perlakuan kita setelah mobil dikerjakan
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@ atas ane..

nahh ini dia master poles nya SM.... ayo tolong d jabarkan step2 moles nya om kopi...

@ mods enji
kit kuning masi ampuh koq om utk sekedar angkat oksidasi2 dan jmur2 water spot ringan di cat... apalagi kit kuning skarang... tingkat abrasive nya ud jauh lebi rendah ktimbang dulu... rasa2 nya ud lebi aman di pake sering2... cmiiw
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kalo mobil warna item emang harus extra perawatannya bro.
Setuju dengan bro Nightster Guy, musti diliat dl permasalahnnya apa aja.
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Oooo.... Jadi hrus bener2 cari tmpt yg pro poles nya ya... .____.

Obat poles nya yg oke apa??
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Ini dia. Masalah paint correction bukan buat pemula. Gw punya teman yang kerja sampingannya paint correction dua tahun terakhir ini, kerjaannya bagus sekali tapi investasi dalam bentuk ongkos, waktu, dan peralatan yang tidak kecil.

Untuk pemilik mobil yang mau catnya bagus lagi, mending diserahkan ke yang profesional. Mau dikerjakan sendiri, keluar duitnya bakal jauh lebih banyak dengan peralatan dan "obat poles" yang sama.

Kalau sudah ada paint correction, tinggal dipiara dengan cara2 apik yang bisa segudang banyaknya dan untuk cat hitam, siap2 hati sering ngenes.
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warna mobil yg merawat nya gampang apa sih?
jangan silver yah, silver ya gampang hrs nya, ga gt terlihat kalo gores2 kecil..

hitam vs putih?
hm..
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putih masi lebih mudah um

hitam ane dah kapok
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putih swirl susah kelihatan
bahkan tukang poles juga bisa kecolongan lupa ilangin swirl di mobil putih
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kerogawa wrote:warna mobil yg merawat nya gampang apa sih?
jangan silver yah, silver ya gampang hrs nya, ga gt terlihat kalo gores2 kecil..

hitam vs putih?
hm..
Putih.

Make sense kan land rover yg buat masuk utan milih warna kbangsaan putih.

UN dan most NGO milih putih jg sbg wrna fleetnya.

Putih mo baret2 pun ngga kliatan.

Sialnya, mo ditreatment sampe mengkilat banget pun si putih ngga akan nendang2 banget under normal direct sun light, kec di bawah sinar lampu FL high intensity. Mo ditreat pake GZOX pun.

Item, sbaliknya. Baret alus lsg kliatan, tp kl ditreatment max, ngga ada yg ngalahin deepnya, apalagi kl wetlook. Palagi kl solid.
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Kalo warna grey/abu2 gimana soalnya nih warna mulai populer byk diminati setelah hitam,putih,silver.utk bikin kilap mobil biasanya showroom2 mobil bekas pakai obat kaleng yg warna hijau besar plus mesin poles udh bikin kinclong bgt tuh cat.
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Warna hijau besar? Turtle Wax? Jangan pakai Turtle Wax dong jaman sekarang, 30 tahun yang lalu sih ok, jaman sekarang banyak yang jauh lebih bagus.
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POS VETT wrote:Warna hijau besar? Turtle Wax? Jangan pakai Turtle Wax dong jaman sekarang, 30 tahun yang lalu sih ok, jaman sekarang banyak yang jauh lebih bagus.
Itu juga baru Imigrasi dari KIT om :frm_bang_head:
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Ane pny item,... Klo lg niat detailing suka diomelin anak bini krn berasa jd bujang lg :big_slap:
FWD + eRWD + 4WD + 4WD = :big_cat:
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"Black is not a color, it's a part-time job".
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POS VETT wrote:"Black is not a color, it's a part-time job".
Agree,...
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kalau cuma kilap si gampang, pakein aja sanpoly kaya di bengkel body or showroom mobil bekas, kilap dan licin tuh :mky_03: tapi ya setelah sanpoly luntur ceritanya nampaknya beda :mky_02:
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kunaskun wrote:kalau cuma kilap si gampang, pakein aja sanpoly kaya di bengkel body or showroom mobil bekas, kilap dan licin tuh :mky_03: tapi ya setelah sanpoly luntur ceritanya nampaknya beda :mky_02:
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Mubgkin mobilnya bisa dituker tambah sama yg baru


Kinclonggggggg dee cinnnn


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Mobil hitam kalau mendung ganteng
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Setelah 10 tahun mobil hitam amasih bagus ... mobil putih udah jadi krem yg busuk
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POS VETT wrote:Warna hijau besar? Turtle Wax? Jangan pakai Turtle Wax dong jaman sekarang, 30 tahun yang lalu sih ok, jaman sekarang banyak yang jauh lebih bagus.
Bkn turtle wax ternyata namanya "Ivory Rubbing Compound" senjata pamungkas hampir rata2 dealer mobil bekas.kira2 itu bagus gk ya.
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Walah itu mah kompon putih, dlm kaleng cat ijo metalik tsb hehehe..

Ivory itu merknya. Merk lain yg jg bnyak dipake merk diamond.

Muraaaaaah hahaha mgkin cm 30an rb skrg per kaleng. Pake aja entire body ulangin 4-5x dijamin top coat cat mulai menipis hehe..

Mo cepat murah ya ini opsinya. Cat menipis bodo amat toh buat mobil dijual ini..

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Kalau rubbing compound biasanya terlalu agresif. Dipakai hanya kalau kondisi cat sudah parah.
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Nanti ditest om,mobil ane putih di coating gzox, yen coating, bner ada beda gak. Klo, kita poles ramai2 yg jual.

Klo item mmg ampun, pake gzox pun swirl gak ilang :big_childish:
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kerogawa wrote:warna mobil yg merawat nya gampang apa sih?
jangan silver yah, silver ya gampang hrs nya, ga gt terlihat kalo gores2 kecil..

hitam vs putih?
hm..
Putih.

Make sense kan land rover yg buat masuk utan milih warna kbangsaan putih.

UN dan most NGO milih putih jg sbg wrna fleetnya.

Putih mo baret2 pun ngga kliatan.

Sialnya, mo ditreatment sampe mengkilat banget pun si putih ngga akan nendang2 banget under normal direct sun light, kec di bawah sinar lampu FL high intensity. Mo ditreat pake GZOX pun.

Item, sbaliknya. Baret alus lsg kliatan, tp kl ditreatment max, ngga ada yg ngalahin deepnya, apalagi kl wetlook. Palagi kl solid.
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ahmad88 wrote:Nanti ditest om,mobil ane putih di coating gzox, yen coating, bner ada beda gak. Klo, kita poles ramai2 yg jual.

Klo item mmg ampun, pake gzox pun swirl gak ilang :big_childish:
hmm gzox bukannya paint protectionnya ya oom? buat di tahap akhir? :roll:

kalau hilangnya swirl atau tidak ya tergantung di tahapan koreksinya :roll:

tapi saya penasaran juga sih sama gzox, terkahir kalau tak salah tempatnya pindah ya :big_childish:
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