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Ini beritanya
http://www.nst.com.my/node/44767
Malaysia and Indonesia to join forces to make Asean car a reality

JAKARTA: Malaysia and Indonesia will soon join forces in the automotive industry to make the Asean car a reality, says Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak.

He said the project would be a dream come true as newly-appointed Indonesian President Joko Widodo, popularly known as Jokowi, has expressed interest in pursuing the idea mooted by Malaysia.

National car maker, Proton Holdings Bhd, is expected to be involved in the project.

"A feasibility study of a possible joint production of the Asean car by Malaysia and Indonesia will be undertaken and it (the idea) was welcomed by President Jokowi who wants the idea to be pursued further.

"This means Proton and Indonesia will launch the Asean car as a viable project after in-depth studies," he told Malaysian journalists here today at the end of his two-day visit to the Indonesian capital to attend the swearing-in ceremony of President Jokowi.
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politically feasible (malay sdg eco downturn) but not in eco perspective from indo angle

akan kalah dgn existing mass products each brand investing in asean
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Saya pribadi "membaca-nya" :
"Produsen mobil Malaysia ingin mengexplorasi pasar Indonesia secara lebih dalam, tapi spt-nya mereka nggak mempunyai kemampuan finansial yg cukup / ingin risk sharing, jadi ingin mencari partner lokal"

siapa yg akan jadi investor utama-nya ? pihak sana atau mrk cari investor besar dr Indonesia ?? Polanya brp banding berapa

Lokasi pabrik dimana ?

(Pernah baca bbrp tahun lalu bahwa industri MobNas mrk ada yg mengalami kesulitan finansial)

Setuju dgn um NR, mrk akan berat lawan PMA PMA Jepun yg beroperasi di ASEAN, yg scr kapital & R&D jauh lebih kuat
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Asal jgn kayak esemka ajalah. Rebranding parah dibilang karya sendiri. CACAT !!
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misalkan nih, petinggi2 industri otomotif indonesia keluar dari comfort zone mereka lalu bergabung bikin pabrikan mobil, secara skill (teknis dan bisnis) mampu gak?
kendala terbesar mungkin dana dan research kali ya?

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ide sangat bagus dari malaysia asal bisa murah kaya timor dengan spek mirip mirip dan juga suku cadang murah murah seperti filter oli 30 rebu,filter bensin 40 ribu filter udara 30 rebu..................................................
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Siap2 kita nunggu om rubble ngebombardir disini..

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siap, ane nunggu di pojokan sambil nyantap somay dan batagor...
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maskopat wrote:misalkan nih, petinggi2 industri otomotif indonesia keluar dari comfort zone mereka lalu bergabung bikin pabrikan mobil, secara skill (teknis dan bisnis) mampu gak?
kendala terbesar mungkin dana dan research kali ya?

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kalau mau start bikin mobil sendiri, rasanya akan lebih feasible main di commercial vehicle, start bikin kendaraan komersial ukuran kecil dulu, spt pick-up 4X2 & 4X4 / mini truck / three wheeler people carrier etc

Bermain di sektor passenger vehicle ibarat ikut lomba Gladiator lawan T-Rex dengan tangan kosong.......sangat berat

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Dr dulu sy sepaham ama mod turboman soal jenis kendaraan yg plg cocok utk diangkat sbg mobnas.

Eh kcuali 3 wheelernya mod. What for ya? Hehehe..
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Nightster Guy wrote:Dr dulu sy sepaham ama mod turboman soal jenis kendaraan yg plg cocok utk diangkat sbg mobnas.

Eh kcuali 3 wheelernya mod. What for ya? Hehehe..
Buat kita jalan2 lewatin jalan kecil.......eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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ehm.....3 wheeler ppl carrier gak banyak produsen yg bikin, tapi dibutuhkan oleh masyarakat di Indonesia........potensi bisnisnya ada

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Naaaah ini nih yang saya harapkan, para master turun gunung :mky_02:
Yuk mari dilanjuuuut.

Saya pribadi pesimis kalo passenger car. Tapi kalau mobil niaga, peluang itu ada
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tdk mgkn timor episode re enact jaman skrg ini

bisa habis kena hook sana sini di wto...blm lagi kalo mrk smua kirim speculan macam soros n bikin rupiah telempar ke (brp yg belum?) rp.35,000 vs usd 1

dulu sy pernah diminta bantu alm prof komar ke wto trial. we were like a group of idiotics in front of angels of death.

timor murah krn tiga hal

org indo wkt itu tdk tau apa itu murah krn biasa kena apa apa mahal (n skrg juga bgt...byk yg paksa diri naik benz pdhl shockabsorber suntikan punya n they arebdriving car with defauled loan repay)

100% import tax exemption dgn presidential decision (nomor 42 / year 1996) yg bbrp x di lempar lempar plaintiffs (us federal govt.qq gm qq ford) saat wto trial

kia saat itu technically bankrupt n mobil thn 92 sdh nos bbrp thn 30,000 units n sdh di jual MLM masih juga tumpuk di stockyard n tibatiba ada order superbesar dr anak diktator asal mau markup n specdown (FoB timor saat th95 sebetulnya cuma usd 2,000 utk usdm spec) copot ini itu yg dianggap tdkbperlu n jual ke us market sbg replacement parts
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maskopat wrote:siap, ane nunggu di pojokan sambil nyantap somay dan batagor...
Minta om :ngacir: :ngacir:


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newrubble wrote: kia saat itu technically bankrupt n mobil thn 92 sdh nos bbrp thn 30,000 units n sdh di jual MLM masih juga tumpuk di stockyard n tibatiba ada order superbesar dr anak diktator asal mau markup n specdown (FoB timor saat th95 sebetulnya cuma usd 2,000 utk usdm spec) copot ini itu yg dianggap tdkbperlu n jual ke us market sbg replacement parts
Jadi timor s515/i itu... Mobil NOS sisaan dari jaman dulu trus dijual baru sama om tommy? :big_chicken:
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Sependapat dengan Om Turbo... kita bikin dulu mobil niaga cc kecil yang reliable dan terjangkau buat di daerah2, buat teknisi bisa gandeng SMK/STM lokal.. penjualan bisa via koperasi ato apapun yang sistemnya memudahkan rakyat....

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Timor. Price mark up dan dispec down. Jenius. Dan booming krn murah. Kasian ya kita ini?

Om rubble.. sy msh inget jaman jaya timor lalu baleno 96/97 keluar dgn angka yg jg menusuk (buat sedan jaman itu) 36 jt (cmiiw, memori kolektif aja). Itu apa si diktator ngga ngamuk2 ke koleganya si om liem? Dagangan anaknya disaingin dagangan kolega/atm abadinya..
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kalo dgn malaysia, mending ngalah dan jalan sendiri. jalan mereka memang seperti itu. Kalo menemukan berlian, akan diambil seluruhnya tanpa bagi.
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Nightster Guy wrote:Timor. Price mark up dan dispec down. Jenius. Dan booming krn murah. Kasian ya kita ini?

Om rubble.. sy msh inget jaman jaya timor lalu baleno 96/97 keluar dgn angka yg jg menusuk (buat sedan jaman itu) 36 jt (cmiiw, memori kolektif aja). Itu apa si diktator ngga ngamuk2 ke koleganya si om liem? Dagangan anaknya disaingin dagangan kolega/atm abadinya..
tdk kuatir krn timor (35juta onroad sohc carby, 37juta onroad dohc einsplitzung) sukses ciptakan captive market (smua govt institution wajip beli timor trmsk 5,000 units per angkatan perang abri) n timor tdk gunakan usd sbg price benchmark jadi beda dg yg lain

mazda323 "lantis pavkage" juga dijual onroad rp.42juta alias lbh murah drpd daewoo nexia (opel/vauxhall astra qq pontiac lemans t) yg rp.45juta onroad. blm lagi mazda mr.90 dgn hadiah di undi per 10unit itu (kalo menang) gratis satu. atau beli 10 gratis 1 tanpa undi

chaotic market saat itu. hanya tommy n oom fritz yg tersenyum. oom william masuk rumahsakit spore n japan
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maksudnya om william tertekan karena itu jadinya perlu perawatan om NR?
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montirangin wrote:kalo dgn malaysia, mending ngalah dan jalan sendiri. jalan mereka memang seperti itu. Kalo menemukan berlian, akan diambil seluruhnya tanpa bagi.
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Turboman wrote:
montirangin wrote:kalo dgn malaysia, mending ngalah dan jalan sendiri. jalan mereka memang seperti itu. Kalo menemukan berlian, akan diambil seluruhnya tanpa bagi.
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Yg mo ganyang malay batal jd presiden mod.... :ngacir:... :ngacir.....
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Nightster Guy wrote:Yg mo ganyang malay batal jd presiden mod.... :ngacir:... :ngacir.....
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newrubble wrote:
kia saat itu technically bankrupt n mobil thn 92 sdh nos bbrp thn 30,000 units n sdh di jual MLM masih juga tumpuk di stockyard n tibatiba ada order superbesar dr anak diktator asal mau markup n specdown (FoB timor saat th95 sebetulnya cuma usd 2,000 utk usdm spec) copot ini itu yg dianggap tdkbperlu n jual ke us market sbg replacement parts
Jangan2 dulu si Mr. "T" itu dapetin itu Sephia dgn harga borongan jauh di bawah USD 2000 / unit bisa2

Pelat fender body disenderin bisa meleot.......entah itu mobil buat pasar mana sebetulnya......
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