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NHTSA to require backup cameras on all vehicles

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a proposed rule Monday requiring all new light vehicles — including cars, SUVs, trucks and vans — to have "rear-view visibility systems," in effect, requiring backup cameras.

The rule -- which would be final in 60 days -- would start phasing in on May 1, 2016 models and be at 100% May 1, 2018.

The rule follows an outcry from consumer groups and by families touched by tragic back-over accidents, especially those involving children. They have pushed hard against more delays in the rule.

"We are committed to protecting the most vulnerable victims of back-over accidents — our children and seniors," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement.

Under the rule, all vehicles would have to give the driver a view 10-foot by 20-foot zone directly behind the vehicle. There are also requirements for image size and other factors that all but require rear-view cameras as the only solution that complies.

In a 2010 report, the DOT's NHTSA said that each year 210 people die and 15,000 are injured in light-vehicle backup incidents, with about 31% of the deaths among kids under age 5 and 26% adults over 70.

NHTSA estimates that 58 to 69 lives will be saved each year (not including injuries prevented) once the entire on-road vehicle fleet has rear-view systems, which it believes will be by about 2054.

Congress passed a law ordering the DOT to have a rule in place by 2011 to require cameras or other backup warning devices on all new cars and light trucks. The original goal was for them to be required on all light vehicles by the 2014 model year. Until Monday, however, there have been multiple delays over the details.

To try to break through, a coalition of car-safety advocates and parents sued the Obama administration in September. Two parents who accidentally backed over children were the lead plaintiffs. The U.S. Court of Appeals in New York was scheduled to hear arguments Tuesday.

Advocates expressed relief that the regulation had finally been issued. "It's about time the motoring public will finally be able to see what's behind their vehicle while backing up," says Janette Fennell, president of KidsAndCars.org, in a statement.

Many automakers, responding to consumer demand, have gotten ahead of the regulation by putting standard or optional cameras on new models as they are redesigned, even on their smallest, most economical cars.

NHTSA estimates that 73% of light vehicles already voluntarily will have rear-view cameras by the final deadline of 2018 and that the cost per vehicle to equip the remainder will be $132 to $142 for a complete system, $43 to $45 to add the camera to a vehicle that already has an adequate display screen.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/car ... s/7114531/

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Nah, menurut rekan2 sekalian, lebih serem mundurin mobil di US sana atau di Indonesia?

Trutama mobil2 segede gaban, kadang ada anak kecil yang main di bokong mobil atau kucing lagi bobok siang... jadi, setidaknya rear cam bisa mengurangi angka kecelakaan karena obyek2 hidup dibelakang dapat terlihat... dan mungkin meningkatkan klaim asuransi gegara pengemudi terlalu fokus ke rear view monitor dan mobil malah nyenggol tiang.

Apalagi kecelakaan di Indonesia sering kali dianggap "Ahhh, biasa...", "Oh, itu uda takdir", "Uda waktu nya", "Asuransi... mana asuransi", dst dst... Jadi efek gunung es, mungkin saja terjadi di marih: (deliberately) unreported incident.
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Apa sih gunanya?
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walid_007 wrote:Apa sih gunanya?
Mengurangi resiko melindas obyek di belakang mobil saat mundur, om walid.
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klo diindo mah rear cam oem yg 700 rban bisa jadi naik jutaan ditangan atpm. :big_slap:
ane vote rear cam untuk mobil gaban, dr pada rear sensor, tembok uda deket interval nya panjang, :big_slap:
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Kalau wajib belajar 9 tahun -> masuk SD sampai SMP gratis.
Berarti kalau rear cam wajib -> pembelian dan pemasangan rear cam gratis

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Felixz_Yaris wrote:klo diindo mah rear cam oem yg 700 rban bisa jadi naik jutaan ditangan atpm. :big_slap:
ane vote rear cam untuk mobil gaban, dr pada rear sensor, tembok uda deket interval nya panjang, :big_slap:
Itu dia bro wasir.

Kadang ATPM menjadikan rear cam itu opsional. Padahal harga ga seberapa dibandingkan mobil yg ratusan juta...

Menurut ane, rear cam lebih mampu memberikan gambaran tentang bokong mobil. Terutama rear cam dgn setting kemiringan yg tepat jadi bumper terlihat.

Tetap saja kehati2an saat mundur itu penting... liat semua spion, toleh ke belakang untuk memastikan lagi, baru mundur... rear cam sesekali ane tengok, trutama saat mendekati tembok.

Cmiiiiiaaaauuuw.. :ungg:

@om droid: seharusnya uda jadi standar ya om, bagi mobil2 di Indonesia. Terutama mobil dgn bokong segede gaban.
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artoodetoo wrote:Kalau wajib belajar 9 tahun -> masuk SD sampai SMP gratis.
Berarti kalau rear cam wajib -> pembelian dan pemasangan rear cam gratis

:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
setau ane pemasangan rear cam kan relatif mudah, sambungkan ke stoplamp, sama ke HU, pasangin deket plat dah jadi :upss:
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Felixz_Yaris wrote:
artoodetoo wrote:Kalau wajib belajar 9 tahun -> masuk SD sampai SMP gratis.
Berarti kalau rear cam wajib -> pembelian dan pemasangan rear cam gratis

:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
setau ane pemasangan rear cam kan relatif mudah, sambungkan ke stoplamp, sama ke HU, pasangin deket plat dah jadi :upss:
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Kalau HU model begini, pegimane mod wasir? :upss: :upss: :upss:


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madcat015 wrote:
Felixz_Yaris wrote:
artoodetoo wrote:Kalau wajib belajar 9 tahun -> masuk SD sampai SMP gratis.
Berarti kalau rear cam wajib -> pembelian dan pemasangan rear cam gratis

:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
setau ane pemasangan rear cam kan relatif mudah, sambungkan ke stoplamp, sama ke HU, pasangin deket plat dah jadi :upss:
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Kalau HU model begini, pegimane mod wasir? :upss: :upss: :upss:


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Untuk sementara, memang harus menoleh... :ungg:

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Apapun US safety feature / level akan diterapkan di indo. Trmsk rear cam. Tapi ini beda perspective nya

US itu regulatory compliance
Indo itu market demand driven (trend or fashion)

Sy ingat dr jaman third brake light th86 sampai multi airbag application itu pasti sampai di negara auto pilot ini ...akan di trapkan pada CKD units meski tdk smua ....sementara govt indo masih ....zzzzzzzzz zzzzzz zzzzzzz
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madcat015 wrote: Nah, menurut rekan2 sekalian, lebih serem mundurin mobil di US sana atau di Indonesia?

Trutama mobil2 segede gaban, kadang ada anak kecil yang main di bokong mobil atau kucing lagi bobok siang... jadi, setidaknya rear cam bisa mengurangi angka kecelakaan karena obyek2 hidup dibelakang dapat terlihat... dan mungkin meningkatkan klaim asuransi gegara pengemudi terlalu fokus ke rear view monitor dan mobil malah nyenggol tiang.

Apalagi kecelakaan di Indonesia sering kali dianggap "Ahhh, biasa...", "Oh, itu uda takdir", "Uda waktu nya", "Asuransi... mana asuransi", dst dst... Jadi efek gunung es, mungkin saja terjadi di marih: (deliberately) unreported incident.
Berarti hal2 accidental kaya gini sering kejadian di US sana ya?
Kalo disini kan kalo mau parkir ga butuh rear cam,lebih sering make rear assisten yang teriak2 dibelakang Oom,kaya sodara sepupu saya kalo ga ada yg parkirin ga bakalan mobil nya dimasukin ke garasi nya :big_peace:
Kalo punya uang bisa buat beli mobil,ngapain beli motor lagi.. :big_think:
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Kalau di indonesia diwajibkan, apakah mobil yg HU singleDin akan mendapatkan HU doubleDin gratis? :big_childish:

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Kamera mundur...

Kdg di bbrp mbl (contohnya crv gw sendiri) kamera parkir malah ga fungsi total gegara layarnya kena cahaya matahari... Maklum HU cungkwo ya gitu deh...

En, bakal bikin skill driver jadi tumpul...
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Yang diwajibkan oleh pemerintah USA ada rear camera adalah mobil baru.

Kalo mobil lama gak wajib.

Kayak seatbelt dan airbag.
Kalo mobil tahun 60-an emang dari sono nya gak pake dua benda itu, ya sampe 2014 juga gak wajib pake.

Sebenernya ya, bukan wajib rear camera yang penting.

Kalo mundur mbok ya lihat2 dulu.
Anak2 jangan mainan dekat mobil yang bergerak.

Ada beberapa artikel di majalah otomotif dari UK, Menyatakan bahwa banyak nya driver aid juga bisa menjadi pedang bermata 2, karena pengemudi bersandar pada tehnologi, jadi skill nya menurun.

Penulis tersebut menceritakan bahwa,
Mobil miliknya punya blind spot warning system.
Tapi karena menurut dia mengganggu, jadi dimatikan.
Kali lain istrinya bawa mobil itu, karena istrinya percaya dengan sistem tersebut, dia pindah jalur kurang perhatikan spion, hasilnya, NABRAK mobil sebelah.

Saya gak bilang bahwa driver aid gak ada guna, tapi jangan lupa dengan skill kita sebagai pengemudi yang baik.
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Di Indonesia nyusul wajib rear camera masih lama deh.

Wong penggunaan sabuk pengaman pada penumpang dan supir aja masih dilanggar.

Belum wajib pakai sabuk pengaman untuk penumpang di belakang.

Wajib helm juga masi dilanggar.

Oh iya,
Setahu saya kalo di USA, wajib kan untuk mobil baru.

Mobil lama tidak diwajibkan.
Dan terap gak pasang juga gak masalah.

Misalnya seat belt.

Apabila mobil anda standar pabriknya gak ada seat belt, anda boleh berkendara tanpa seat belt.
Anda tidak diwajibkan pasang sendiri.

Tapi kalo ada di mobil dan anda gak pake, nah itu di denda.

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Fitur yang begini yang bikin pengemudi jadi manja. Maunya semua mesti ada. Untuk orang2 yang hobi mobil dan punya kebanggaan menyetir/membawa mobil, rear camera tidak penting. Sistem ini seperti Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), stability control, rollover mitigation, dan lane departure warning yang gw anggap "an insult to one's intelligence".

Tapi begitulah pemerintah US, apa saja dijadikan peraturan tanpa melihat akibat jangka panjangnya. Dari sini sudah terlihat gelagat bahwa self-driving cars adalah tujuan utamanya.
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@madcat sama aja bro, kalo orang nya nyupirnya kasar, kayak supir ane udah ada rear cam tetep aja maen hajar alhasil waktu itu nyundul motor deh.
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Nggak harus pake double din...

Di isuzu elf, rear cam udah jd fitur standar... ada layar external 3,5" yg diletakkan di atas dash, ukurannya kompak ngga ganggu pandangan...



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Nah, itulah bro monster, mirip seperti postingan om pos-vett... apa gimmick dalam bentuk driverks aid akan jadi senjata makan tuan?

Kemampuan mengemudi akan menurun, akan tumpul. Aid malah jadi distraction, begitu nyetir mobil yg ga ada aid nya malah accident spt postingan om salvanost.

Mmg, US regulation akan berakibat dalam jangka panjang ke Indonesia, spt penjelasan om rubble. Masalahnya..., kapan? dan apakah efektif? Dan apakah dipatuhi ATPM?

Mungkin untuk mobil2 gambot dgn bokong nungging *biasanya keliaran di US sono*, rear cam sangat membantu saat parkir. Drpd bumper nyenggol pagar. Ttp kehati2an dan keahlian mengemudi itu yg lebih penting drpd driver's aid manapun. *setuju dgn posting om vett lg* :mrgreen:


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kan brandnew cars d indo sdh mulai ada yg dikasih bonus rearview cam ...di indo itu masalah fashion ...lbh efektif application nya n jauh lbh populer (ampuh) drpd regulative / compulsory order di govt mouth piece ...parking sensor juga sdh mulai std u mid grade mobil mobil ina-dm spt avanza, livina dll ...tanpa govt bergerak n berfikir
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newrubble wrote:kan brandnew cars d indo sdh mulai ada yg dikasih bonus rearview cam ...di indo itu masalah fashion ...lbh efektif application nya n jauh lbh populer (ampuh) drpd regulative / compulsory order di govt mouth piece ...parking sensor juga sdh mulai std u mid grade mobil mobil ina-dm spt avanza, livina dll ...tanpa govt bergerak n berfikir

Betul om... Fashion/Prestige di Indonesia berjalan sangat ampuh dan cepat dibandingkan dengan peraturan... Mobil sebelah pasang sensor parkir, ada yg ga mw kalah, pasang sensor parkir + rear cam... :ngacir:
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paling juga gimmick dr pabrikan. kalau untuk regulasi pemerintah no hope deh,
abs aja blm mandatory d sini
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kalo perlu rear cam nya ada fitur infrared...

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bagusnya rear camera di tambah fungsi cctv jadi kalau ada yang nyundul bemper belakang bisa ketauan pelat nomer nya trus bisa kita kejar deh.