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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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DOHC wrote:om singachu,

berarti ane harus ganti ke busi yg lebi "panas" ??
kalau mengacu ke artikelnya sih begitu.... coba aja 1 tingkat lebih panas, garisnya ngegeser ke tengah ga...

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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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kl gt ane harus pake busi nya t30 batu makam nehhh.... NGK LFR5A....
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DOHC wrote:kl gt ane harus pake busi nya t30 batu makam nehhh.... NGK LFR5A....
ntar kalau dah makai cukup lama, direport lagi ya :mky_01:

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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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sip om.... kadang2 ane suka update busi di tret ini koq.. :upss:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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@ oom singachu, sebelum potong ground warnanya kaya gimana?

@ DOHC, udah setel-setel lagi apa belum?
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marmut wrote:
@ DOHC, udah setel-setel lagi apa belum?
lg d luar kota om... nanti kalo uda balik ke jkt lg baru ane kutak katik lg tuh mobil...
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marmut wrote:@ oom singachu, sebelum potong ground warnanya kaya gimana?

@ DOHC, udah setel-setel lagi apa belum?
hmmm maksudnya gmn ?
Image
itu ground aku potong pas kondisi baru....
trus aku tancepin di mesin, dan setelah 10rb km aku lepas dan foto kondisi apa adanya tanpa aku bersihkan sama sekali.....

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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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oooo.... dari baru toh. sebelum ganti busi yang sekarang, ground-nya dipotong juga?

edit : kalo pernah tau merk busi eyquem, ground-nya sudah kaya gitu dari pabrik. itu gunanya buat apa ya?
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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marmut wrote:oooo.... dari baru toh. sebelum ganti busi yang sekarang, ground-nya dipotong juga?

edit : kalo pernah tau merk busi eyquem, ground-nya sudah kaya gitu dari pabrik. itu gunanya buat apa ya?
ga pernah tau merk eyquem,..... ground dipotong pro kontra sih, tapi berhubung penasaran ya coba2...
ini reportnya : http://otodiy.blogspot.com/2014/04/diy- ... e-gap.html
kira2 :
Secara konsep side gap ini diyakini dengan mengekspose center electroda biar ga terhalang oleh ground electroda, maka penyebaran pembakaran tidak terhalang, yang sebelumnya rambatan api kira-kira berbentuk donut karena menyamping, sekarang menyerupai setengah bola karena juga ke atas (atau ke bawah kalau di busi hadap bawah). Kelemahannya dikatakan gap busi cepat renggang akibat tingkat keausan busi meningkat karena pembakaran fokus ke titik yang lebih kecil dibanding sebelum dipotong.

Sebelum2nya ga pernah motong sih, cuman pertama motong pakai busi bekas dulu, pakai 4 mingguan ganti busi ntuh di atas....

yang taon 2013 aku coba cari foto businya ga nemu :D

sebelumnya lagi pernah makai autolite 985.... pernah aku post di sini :
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20336&start=425


kalau ini malah foto taon 2009 : Image

secara umum sih warnanya businya juga mirip2....

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Tanya busi irridium

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Halo kawan sm... Mau tanya nih tentang busi irridium..

1. Apa sih beda nya sama busi biasa??
2. Apa tarikan mesin jadi lebih bagus, atau sama aja??
3. Konsumsi bbm nya gimana?? Jadi lebih boros atau lebih irit??
4. So recommended ga?? Kalai recommended, merek apa yang bagus??

Thx b4
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Re: Tanya busi irridium

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http://densoiridium.com/faq.php

lengkap ada disitu smua jawaban nya om...
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Re: Tanya busi irridium

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Saya malah kepikiran busi hi performance non iridium (twin tips, octa tips, u name it) daripada iridium :big_think:

kejadian kerabat saya, miara GD3 VTEC 2007, isi iridium, koil standar, eeh kenapa berebet berebet. Balikin lagi ke busi biasa, normal lagi :big_think:

Diagnosa sementara mekanik bengkel, jangan pake iridium di mobil dengan umur lumayan tua, koilnya terkadang ga kuat ngangkat :big_think:
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yeodi wrote:Halo kawan sm... Mau tanya nih tentang busi irridium..

1. Apa sih beda nya sama busi biasa??
2. Apa tarikan mesin jadi lebih bagus, atau sama aja??
3. Konsumsi bbm nya gimana?? Jadi lebih boros atau lebih irit??
4. So recommended ga?? Kalai recommended, merek apa yang bagus??

Thx b4
1. Material...? Harga...?
2. Butt-o-meter, sama saja, kecuali suggestif dan atau diukur beneran
3. Sama dgn no.2
4. Recommended (buat saya), terutama utk faktor low maintenance dan umur pakai

Merk banyak, yg populer dan sering dipakai orang kebanyakan disini ya ngga jauh2 dari NGK dan Denso.
Kebetulan saya pernah pakai keduanya...dan lagi2 butt-o-meter sih hasilnya sama saja :mrgreen:

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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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kalo berdasar denso perub ahan power sih ga signifikan. tapi ada sekitar 1-2% aja
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imingwahyudi wrote:Saya malah kepikiran busi hi performance non iridium (twin tips, octa tips, u name it) daripada iridium :big_think:

kejadian kerabat saya, miara GD3 VTEC 2007, isi iridium, koil standar, eeh kenapa berebet berebet. Balikin lagi ke busi biasa, normal lagi :big_think:

Diagnosa sementara mekanik bengkel, jangan pake iridium di mobil dengan umur lumayan tua, koilnya terkadang ga kuat ngangkat :big_think:
Apa ada kemungkinan salah tipe/heat range?

Saya pakai iridium di santi tua, thn 2001 odo 230.000++km ngga masalah kok. Koil standard, dan sdh berumur juga...
Malah socket kabelnya sdh pada getas dan akhirnya cuma di solder ulang+sealant
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Re: Tanya busi irridium

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imingwahyudi wrote:Saya malah kepikiran busi hi performance non iridium (twin tips, octa tips, u name it) daripada iridium :big_think:

kejadian kerabat saya, miara GD3 VTEC 2007, isi iridium, koil standar, eeh kenapa berebet berebet. Balikin lagi ke busi biasa, normal lagi :big_think:

Diagnosa sementara mekanik bengkel, jangan pake iridium di mobil dengan umur lumayan tua, koilnya terkadang ga kuat ngangkat :big_think:
utk mesin yg sama, L15 d GE8 malah make iridium lohh bawaan nya... jadi musti nya sehh bsa2 aj... mungkin blom d setting ulang oleh bengkel nya...

mengenai mobil tua... itu pemakai lipina yg uda taonan pd pake busi iridium bawaan gapapa... lebi ke faktor settingan sehh kayanya om...
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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sore semua numpang tanya saya pake autolite xp iridium tp kayanya nggak cocok padahal udah pake pertamax tp suara ngegelitik masih ada. di buku manual nya sih disaranin ngk iridium SILFR6A11. kira2 nyari nya dimana ya? udh keliling toko belom nemu, thanks
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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yg paling penting.....mobilnya apa om?..........
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montirangin wrote:yg paling penting.....mobilnya apa om?..........
Kayaknya subaru....
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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kiddy wrote:sore semua numpang tanya saya pake autolite xp iridium tp kayanya nggak cocok padahal udah pake pertamax tp suara ngegelitik masih ada. di buku manual nya sih disaranin ngk iridium SILFR6A11. kira2 nyari nya dimana ya? udh keliling toko belom nemu, thanks
Kalau di "cross reference", NGK SILFR6A11 ini kompatibel sama DENSO IKH20 atau DENSO VKH20
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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mau minta info toyota veloz at pake ori nya busi apa kodenya? terus mau ganti busi yg super duper bagus itu pake merek apa? isinya premium nich
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Busi TwinTip kenapa nyarinya susah amat yak :(. Kalo ada info boleh dong saya butuh PK16TT he..he..he..udah kontak Denso Sentra, yang ada malah K16TT, itu pun mau beli susah banget...
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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gilaasepeda wrote:mau minta info toyota veloz at pake ori nya busi apa kodenya? terus mau ganti busi yg super duper bagus itu pake merek apa? isinya premium nich
Kalau mobil2 keluaran toyota, bisa dipastikan mayoritas pakai Denso

Bisa cek disini:

Katalog Busi Denso
si vis pacem para bellum - si vis bellum para pacem - si vis pacem para pactum
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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imsus2c wrote:
gilaasepeda wrote:mau minta info toyota veloz at pake ori nya busi apa kodenya? terus mau ganti busi yg super duper bagus itu pake merek apa? isinya premium nich
Kalau mobil2 keluaran toyota, bisa dipastikan mayoritas pakai Denso

Bisa cek disini:

Katalog Busi Denso
berarti saya masuk new avanza? XU22PR9 > VXU22?
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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@ gilaasepeda,
manual book dibaca dulu mas. dibaca yang bener dari awal sampe akhir.