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Re: Nanya2 ttg BUSI LASER

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Untuk Pembakaran Normal busi tidak perlu dibersihkan paling cuman diatur celah kerengganganya karena electroda negatif lama lama akan menipis sehingga celah makin lebar ( busi konvensional) :big_grin:

Terus banyak yang salah mengartikan kode spesifikasi busi, Misal Tilisan R dianggap busi Racing, padahal itu busi berhambatan :big_grin:

Mau ngak Pusing ya Pake Diesel ngak mikirin Busi :big_peace:
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Kalau Bisa diperbaiki ya jangan diganti, Kalau bisa bikin sendiri mengapa harus beli ?
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Unta_item wrote: Mau ngak Pusing ya Pake Diesel ngak mikirin Busi :big_peace:
Ah...engga juga :big_smoking:

Tempohari saya ganti busi untuk mesin DW10TD-HDi, 4 pcs, mana mahal lagi... :big_weee:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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imsus2c wrote:
Unta_item wrote: Mau ngak Pusing ya Pake Diesel ngak mikirin Busi :big_peace:
Ah...engga juga :big_smoking:

Tempohari saya ganti busi untuk mesin DW10TD-HDi, 4 pcs, mana mahal lagi... :big_weee:
Itu sih karena yang desain HDI gagal paham dipasangin pake Busi pemanas segala :big_weee:

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: kabur dulu ah sebelon di :2gunfire: ama fansboy HDI :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Bentar lagi waktunya ganti busi nih
Baiknya pake busi standar bawaan beres apa busi iridium yak??
Pengen nyobain busi iridium autolite nih :e-think:
Pemakaian daily use aja
Mayan kan 40rb-50rb KM baru ganti busi kalo pake iridium :mky_01:
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e36 320i ane pake iridium, lbh responsif, lbh laju dan lbh irit bbm tp gak signifikan amat sih bedanya tp lumayanlah.. ane pake trus baru ganti lagi pas di 53ribuan km... itupun msh bisa kok digunakan sebenarnya tp udh gak max pembakarannya
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Jambangan wrote:Bentar lagi waktunya ganti busi nih
Baiknya pake busi standar bawaan beres apa busi iridium yak??
Pengen nyobain busi iridium autolite nih :e-think:
Pemakaian daily use aja
Mayan kan 40rb-50rb KM baru ganti busi kalo pake iridium :mky_01:
tergantung mobilnya gan, klo mobil yg perlu pembakaran besar pake busi iridium lbh efektif, buat cc yg > 1800 ... katanya sih klo yg pembakarannya gak besar alias cc < 1800 gak terlalu efektif, cukup pake busi standar aja... tp ane gak tau ya bener ato gaknya soalnya ane cuma pake iridium di mobil cc gede...coba aja cari2 info di google
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Mobil ane 1.5 L om :D
Mungkin pake busi standar aja kali ya. Soalnya pernah dikasih tau om ane ada beberapa mobil yg ga cocok pake iridium. Baru 25rb KM udh rusak businya. Padahal iridium lho :e-think:
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Jambangan wrote:Mobil ane 1.5 L om :D
Mungkin pake busi standar aja kali ya. Soalnya pernah dikasih tau om ane ada beberapa mobil yg ga cocok pake iridium. Baru 25rb KM udh rusak businya. Padahal iridium lho :e-think:
ini ada tulisan mengenai iridium.. http://oto.detik.com/read/2011/12/16/13 ... il-standar
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@ jambangan,
liat di manual book harus pake busi apa. Dan yang paling penting itu nilai panas busi, bukan merk.
Iridium tidak disarankan untuk mesin yang sering idle alias kena macet.
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all sesepuh busi, sekarang ini posisi standar pabrik pakai busi PLKR7B8E , ada yg bisa bantu persamaan nya ke ngk iridum ?
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richard t wrote:all sesepuh busi, sekarang ini posisi standar pabrik pakai busi PLKR7B8E , ada yg bisa bantu persamaan nya ke ngk iridum ?
Kayaknya yg iridium utk itu, saat ini ngga ada, Pak.
http://www.ngkbusi.com/index.php/pfsp/4w
http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/
http://www.sparkplugcrossreference.co.uk/search/
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imsus2c wrote:
richard t wrote:all sesepuh busi, sekarang ini posisi standar pabrik pakai busi PLKR7B8E , ada yg bisa bantu persamaan nya ke ngk iridum ?
Kayaknya yg iridium utk itu, saat ini ngga ada, Pak.
http://www.ngkbusi.com/index.php/pfsp/4w
http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com/
http://www.sparkplugcrossreference.co.uk/search/
Thanx reply nya Om Imsus2c , di forum ada yg mengatakan bisa dipakai ngk LFR6AIX-11 , NGK ILFR6A , BOSCH FR 6 MPP 332. Yg membuat saya agak ragu, masih ada yg kontra dgn ngk . Bosch spt nya aman2 aja. Tp ada pertanyaan, utk derajat panas nya , standar nya 7 , yg lainnya di 6.
menurut Om Imsus2c , bgmana ?
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Kalau ngga salah, itu busi buat mercy ya?

Selama NGK (katalog) secara spesifik nyebutin tipe ini cocok untuk mesin/mobil ini, mestinya sih ngga masalah

Justru heat range itu yg lebih penting.
Salah pilih heat range, konsekuensi nya ke performa mesin.

Lain pabrikan (busi), penomoran heat range -nya bisa beda.
Ada yg tambah besar nomornya, artinya busi semakin panas, ada pula yang sebaliknya.

Saran saya, mendingan cek katalog dulu
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Benar Om Imsus 2c, c200 cgi , iy Om di katalog ga ada, saya dapat nya dari forum benz aja. Pasal nya suara ini mesin kasar, apa mungkin karna dia turbo ya Om ? Seingat saya ya, banyak mesin turbo , suaranya jg hening.
Malah ada yg kacau anjurkan ngk bkr 6ix 11, ini saya pakai dulu di camry, hasil memang sangat bagus, getaran minimal
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Re: Serba Serbi Busi

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Kalau masalah mesin kasar, apa sudah pernah periksa ke BeRes?

Suara mesin kasar, kayaknya bukan dominan dari faktor salah busi
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Benar Om Imsus2c memang bukan dari busi. Pernah saya bawa ke beres, mekanik nya mengatakan memang agak kasar mesinnya .
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imsus2c wrote:Kalau masalah mesin kasar, apa sudah pernah periksa ke BeRes?

Suara mesin kasar, kayaknya bukan dominan dari faktor salah busi
bernakah? kalo umur udah tua rasanya mesin kasar..lebih karena faktor worn out di banding busi.
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montirangin wrote:
imsus2c wrote:Kalau masalah mesin kasar, apa sudah pernah periksa ke BeRes?

Suara mesin kasar, kayaknya bukan dominan dari faktor salah busi
bernakah? kalo umur udah tua rasanya mesin kasar..lebih karena faktor worn out di banding busi.
mesin biar kata uda tua kalo kerak2 karbon nya tipis atau minimal, stelan busi benar, supply bensin ok sehh halus2 saja koq.. ohh satu lg, kalo blom bocor kompresi atau katup HLA nya masi bagus yahh..
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DOHC wrote:
montirangin wrote:
imsus2c wrote:Kalau masalah mesin kasar, apa sudah pernah periksa ke BeRes?

Suara mesin kasar, kayaknya bukan dominan dari faktor salah busi
bernakah? kalo umur udah tua rasanya mesin kasar..lebih karena faktor worn out di banding busi.
mesin biar kata uda tua kalo kerak2 karbon nya tipis atau minimal, stelan busi benar, supply bensin ok sehh halus2 saja koq.. ohh satu lg, kalo blom bocor kompresi atau katup HLA nya masi bagus yahh..
Iya betul, mesin yg sudah pakai HLA dan odo sudah banyak, bisa berpotensi suaranya jadi berisik/kasar.
Apalagi kalau sering telat ganti oli atau pakai oli yg kurang bagus dan tdk sesuai spek.
Di bengkel teman, sering lihat sedan2 mitsubishi/hyundai yg berisik banget bunyi mesinnya, dan sebagian besar penyebabnya akibat HLA mampet
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marmut wrote:@ jambangan,
liat di manual book harus pake busi apa. Dan yang paling penting itu nilai panas busi, bukan merk.
Iridium tidak disarankan untuk mesin yang sering idle alias kena macet.
Good info

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Kalo saya sih pakai busi std aja ga masalah, yg peting sebelum dipasang celah-nya kita ukur dgn seksama pakai feeler gauge busi dan kencangkan dgn kunci torsi agar kekencangan seragam
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Godwill wrote:e36 320i ane pake iridium, lbh responsif, lbh laju dan lbh irit bbm tp gak signifikan amat sih bedanya tp lumayanlah.. ane pake trus baru ganti lagi pas di 53ribuan km... itupun msh bisa kok digunakan sebenarnya tp udh gak max pembakarannya
berarti bisa 53rb km masih ok ya..lumayan yaa
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marmut wrote:@ jambangan,
liat di manual book harus pake busi apa. Dan yang paling penting itu nilai panas busi, bukan merk.
Iridium tidak disarankan untuk mesin yang sering idle alias kena macet.
ada sebabnya gan? apa efek buruknya selain businya cepet rusak?
masalahnya skrg jalanan jakarta 75-80% of the time itu macet (normal people driving time, bukan jam 12 dini sampai jam 5 subuh)
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montirangin wrote:
marmut wrote:@ jambangan,
liat di manual book harus pake busi apa. Dan yang paling penting itu nilai panas busi, bukan merk.
Iridium tidak disarankan untuk mesin yang sering idle alias kena macet.
ada sebabnya gan? apa efek buruknya selain businya cepet rusak?
masalahnya skrg jalanan jakarta 75-80% of the time itu macet (normal people driving time, bukan jam 12 dini sampai jam 5 subuh)
Klw ane pemakai busi iridium tp dipake rta" sore ga macet berarti oke yh :e-think: . Jdi kesimpulannya busi biasa lebih bgus bwt macet" an ?
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WongZo wrote:
montirangin wrote:
marmut wrote:@ jambangan,
liat di manual book harus pake busi apa. Dan yang paling penting itu nilai panas busi, bukan merk.
Iridium tidak disarankan untuk mesin yang sering idle alias kena macet.
ada sebabnya gan? apa efek buruknya selain businya cepet rusak?
masalahnya skrg jalanan jakarta 75-80% of the time itu macet (normal people driving time, bukan jam 12 dini sampai jam 5 subuh)
Klw ane pemakai busi iridium tp dipake rta" sore ga macet berarti oke yh :e-think: . Jdi kesimpulannya busi biasa lebih bgus bwt macet" an ?
Yg penting nilai panas-nya sesuai dengan permintaan mesin (cek manual book).
Mau busi iridium atau standard sih sama saja.
Kelebihan busi iridium dibanding busi biasa (jika tipe nya tepat), relatif minim perawatan(low maintenance), umur lebih panjang dan konon pantikan api lebih fokus/efisien.

Busi2 biasa, setiap 5000-7000km sekali mesti dibersihkan dan di cek/stel ulang kerenggangan nya (gap)

Ini lumayan pengaruhnya untuk mesin2 jaman sekarang, yg posisi businya sudah sekali dicek/dilepas.
Kalau mau lepas busi, banyak sekali acara pekerjaan bongkar pasangnya dan mesti teliti (umumnya harus lepas throttle).

Makanya banyak mobil2 jaman sekarang yg sudah pakai busi iridium dari pabriknya.

Beda dgn mesin2 jadul, yg tinggal lepas chop/koil, langsung kelihatan businya.
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Om2 pakar busi, yaris saya kok busi di bagian ulir coklat basah2 yah?
Matikan HP/SmartP/BB/iPhone dalam pesawat, Gak usah sok penting - kalo penting nggak naik kelas Ekonomi