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nanya2 ttg timing
-apa yang terjadi jika putus?
-berapa lama umur timing belt untuk putus
-klo timing chain perlu di ganti ga?
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walid_007 wrote:nanya2 ttg timing
-apa yang terjadi jika putus?
-berapa lama umur timing belt untuk putus
-klo timing chain perlu di ganti ga?
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- Mesin berhenti kalau putusnya lagi jalan. Kalau desain piston-valve tipe interference, beberapa valves bakalan bengkok.

- Umur tergantung banyak faktor. Ikut rekomendasi pabrik.

- Timing chain jarang sekali mesti diganti. Beberapa mesin ada masalah dengan timing chain guides.
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Mau nambahin jawaban,
-yg terjadi jika putus? Kalo beruntung, hanya mesin mendadak mati. Kalo apes dan parah, piston bolong dan klep bengkok/patah.
-umur timing belt kalau mau aman ganti setiap 80.000km.
-timing chain tidak perlu diganti. Yang perlu diganti hanya tensioner dan (seperti keterangan oom PV tentang 'beberapa mesin') chain guides.
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yupp... seperti yg udah dijawab diatas ane.

setau aen mesin mesin sekarang ini bentuk kepala piston sudah dirubah sehingga aman apabila timing belt putus, kalau saran penggantian sebaiknya sih ikut rekomendasi pabrikan aja

kalau ganti timing belt sekalian juga ganti tensionernya ya.
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soalnya ane penasaran sama habanja ane, kan dia pergerakan katupny oleh belt itu (DOHC)
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bukannya avanza udh timing chain ya om???

secara mesin avanza dengan xenia kan sama nih untuk versi 1,3nya. nah selama ane magang di beres Daihatsu perasaan ganti timing belt cuman xenia yang 1.0 deh.

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sebaiknya jangan diturutin rekomendasi pabrikan om... misalnya yg direkomen adalah 50.000 km, mending ganti timing belt saat odometer/tripmeter mencapai 35.000 km, karna di Jkt dan kota2 besar yg suka macet, mobil sering tetap idup berjam2 setiap hari, walau odometer (km) enggak nambah .. jadi korting 15.000 km itu utk mengcover saat mesin idup tapi mobil enggak jalan di kemacetan
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^^^
Sama pak, di buku manual rekomendasinya 60.000km, tapi saya biasa ganti di 45.000-50.000km
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Avanza menggunakan rantai, bukan belt.
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Berapa lama pengerjaan ganti timing belt ya Om?
Apakah perlu bermalam di beres?

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mpvfreak wrote:Berapa lama pengerjaan ganti timing belt ya Om?
Apakah perlu bermalam di beres?

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mesin mobil apa? ganti timing belt hanya itungan jam. apalagi kalo ngerjain di beres yang alatnya lengkap.
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jadi keingetan timing belt evie blm diganti, udh 4th/50rb km

kalo ganti timing belt harus ganti tensioner juga ya ?
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marmut wrote:
mpvfreak wrote:Berapa lama pengerjaan ganti timing belt ya Om?
Apakah perlu bermalam di beres?

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mesin mobil apa? ganti timing belt hanya itungan jam. apalagi kalo ngerjain di beres yang alatnya lengkap.
Kijang 2L Om...
Bagusan di beres ato di bengkel ganti oli biasa bisa di kerjain?
Di beres td saya tanya mau kena 1 jutaan. Klo di luar mungkin 6-7ratus
Bingung Om hehe

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diesel? paling 2-3 jam. sekalian tensioner diganti.
masalah ngerjain dimana, tergantung feeling dan kantong. kalo sreg di beres ya silahkan, kalo pengennya di tempat lain juga ngga ada yg larang.
tinggal tanya aja ke yang punya toko, punya partsnya apa enggak dan ongkos kerjanya berapa.
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D4D 2010 udah 115km blm diganti nih, di buku sih 150 :big_blushing:
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2KD ganti Tim Belt 150 rb km

tapi kalo jarang jalan ya baiknya tahun ke 6 ganti aja
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JESKONENG wrote:sebaiknya jangan diturutin rekomendasi pabrikan om... misalnya yg direkomen adalah 50.000 km, mending ganti timing belt saat odometer/tripmeter mencapai 35.000 km, karna di Jkt dan kota2 besar yg suka macet, mobil sering tetap idup berjam2 setiap hari, walau odometer (km) enggak nambah .. jadi korting 15.000 km itu utk mengcover saat mesin idup tapi mobil enggak jalan di kemacetan
Yup, kejadian di saya. Timing belt baru jalan 30K (dari rencana ganti 45K) tiba2x putus pas lagi digeber di tol. Padahal, timing belt sebelumnya saya ganti di 45K kondisi masih blm retak2x. Apa saya dpt barang KW?? :big_think:
BTW, timing belt putus adl kejadian yg paling saya takuti. Tapi anehnya pas beneran kejadian (mesin tiba2x mati) malah gak kepikiran kalo itu gara2x timing belt putus :big_biglaugh:
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kalo beli mobil seken lebih baik timing belt langsung diganti kalo mobilnya pake timing belt.
terus kalo putus jangan distarter terus2an bisa bikin klep bengkok, jd harus tau tanda2 timing belt putus
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marmut wrote:diesel? paling 2-3 jam. sekalian tensioner diganti.
masalah ngerjain dimana, tergantung feeling dan kantong. kalo sreg di beres ya silahkan, kalo pengennya di tempat lain juga ngga ada yg larang.
tinggal tanya aja ke yang punya toko, punya partsnya apa enggak dan ongkos kerjanya berapa.
Jadinya milih ganti di beres..
Jadi ga was was dapat parts kw. Haha
2L kalo sempat putus bisa rempong Om..
Harga parts sama bengkel luaran ternyata sama..

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walid_007 wrote:soalnya ane penasaran sama habanja ane, kan dia pergerakan katupny oleh belt itu (DOHC)
Eh, bukannya pakai chain.

Btw, untuk mobil yg pakai timing belt memang baiknnya sesuai rekomendasi pabriknya ... terganting merk ada yg 80rb km ada yg sampai 120rb miles. Tapi masalahnya ada juga cerita yg putus sebelum 60rb, jadi ya kita lihat pemakaian kita saja ... kalo banyak macet ya diganti sebelum rekomendasi pabrik
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adityabp wrote:
JESKONENG wrote:sebaiknya jangan diturutin rekomendasi pabrikan om... misalnya yg direkomen adalah 50.000 km, mending ganti timing belt saat odometer/tripmeter mencapai 35.000 km, karna di Jkt dan kota2 besar yg suka macet, mobil sering tetap idup berjam2 setiap hari, walau odometer (km) enggak nambah .. jadi korting 15.000 km itu utk mengcover saat mesin idup tapi mobil enggak jalan di kemacetan
Yup, kejadian di saya. Timing belt baru jalan 30K (dari rencana ganti 45K) tiba2x putus pas lagi digeber di tol. Padahal, timing belt sebelumnya saya ganti di 45K kondisi masih blm retak2x. Apa saya dpt barang KW?? :big_think:
BTW, timing belt putus adl kejadian yg paling saya takuti. Tapi anehnya pas beneran kejadian (mesin tiba2x mati) malah gak kepikiran kalo itu gara2x timing belt putus :big_biglaugh:
tensionernya auto adjust nggak? kalo nggak auto adjust bisa jadi terlalu kenceng tegangannya jadi gampang putus.
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marmut wrote:
adityabp wrote:
JESKONENG wrote:sebaiknya jangan diturutin rekomendasi pabrikan om... misalnya yg direkomen adalah 50.000 km, mending ganti timing belt saat odometer/tripmeter mencapai 35.000 km, karna di Jkt dan kota2 besar yg suka macet, mobil sering tetap idup berjam2 setiap hari, walau odometer (km) enggak nambah .. jadi korting 15.000 km itu utk mengcover saat mesin idup tapi mobil enggak jalan di kemacetan
Yup, kejadian di saya. Timing belt baru jalan 30K (dari rencana ganti 45K) tiba2x putus pas lagi digeber di tol. Padahal, timing belt sebelumnya saya ganti di 45K kondisi masih blm retak2x. Apa saya dpt barang KW?? :big_think:
BTW, timing belt putus adl kejadian yg paling saya takuti. Tapi anehnya pas beneran kejadian (mesin tiba2x mati) malah gak kepikiran kalo itu gara2x timing belt putus :big_biglaugh:
tensionernya auto adjust nggak? kalo nggak auto adjust bisa jadi terlalu kenceng tegangannya jadi gampang putus.
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Kalo mesin2 yg udah pake sistem VVT rata2 udah timing chain

Krn cam phaser mengggunakan oil pressure, daerah cam phaser kena oli
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ada yg bilang klo timing belt dah pernah ganti , ga seawet bawaan pabrik. jd misal bawaan bisa 150rb km paling kl dah gantian di 100rb km mesti ganti.apa bner ya?
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ganti timing tergantung merk dan type mobilnya....sesuai dgn petunjuk pemakaian..

kalau honda toyota 100.000 km an masih ok.
chevy , hati2. karena banyak kejadian 35.000 udah putus.

jadi gak bisa dipukul rata..
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