Jika ada Toyota Avanza 1.3L Diesel, bakal booming banget?

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Jika ada Toyota Avanza 1.3L Diesel, bakal booming banget?

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sesuai dengan judul
mungkin bisa dibilang kayak tret khayalan lain di serayamotor :mky_03: :mky_01:
ini sesuai dengan celetukan master2 di tret forum ini, kadang suka muncul kata: sudah saatnya ada avanza diesel ato avanza 1.3D4D :mky_03: :big_grin: :big_grin:
setelah dipikir menarik banget juga kayaknya jika ada toyota avanza diesel 1300 cc :big_cat: :big_cat:
skarang bisa diliat kalo penjualan all new grand avanza agak ngempos kalo ndak ada diskon2 :big_grin: :big_grin:
padahal sudah pake mesin baru dual-vvti, tetep tidak terlalu menarik lagi sperti pas generasi pertama
brarti mungkin benar next all new avanza will be much better dengan mesin small diesel 1300 cc :mky_03: :mky_01:
lha ini malah baca berita bahwa mobil lcgc agya dan ayla akan dibuat versi panjang 7 seater taon depan :mky_05: :mky_06:
padahal itu sama skali ndak perlu blas menurut newbie thok :big_bored: :big_dunno:
kalo di obrolan dunia nyata, banyak yang kepengen dan yakin bahwa avanza diesel bisa booming besar lagi sperti waktu avanza generasi pertama muncul :big_exellent: :big_exellent:
kalo diliat yang nyata: chevrolet spin diesel saja lumayan sukses pada awal, bahkan bisa membuat general motor indonesia masuk 10 besar sales bulanan dan ini pertama kalinya dalam sejarah perusahaan di indonesia, walo akhirnya harus sayonara juga karena masalah ASS
apalagi jika merk toyota yang sudah tidak perlu diragukan lagi ASS nya, wah bisa bisa inden sampe setahun tu jika ada avanza diesel mini :mky_02: :mky_08:
bagaimana pendapat master master ? :thanks: :big_deal: :big_okay:
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Setuju!
Kebetulan saya pecinta mesin diesel...sehari2 pake ipah diesel, pgn mbl diesel lagi, nungguin ertiga diesel kok ga keluar2...
Kalo ada avanza diesel apalagi ada maticnya sih memikat banget...tp apa gak makan pasar kakaknya (innova) ya?

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bener tu bung nyoynyet, newbie thok juga lagi nunggu ertiga diesel kok ndak keluar keluar :mky_05: :mky_06:
kalo dibaca berita karena perluasan pabrik suzuki indonesia blom selesai, jadi ertiga diesel belum bisa masuk2 sampe skarang :big_bored: :big_dunno:
ato jangan2 suzuki indo ragu ragu karena spin sudah keok duluan tu :big_grin: :big_think:
innova all new mesin diesel harganya ngeri tenan , sudah masuk teritori mobil crossover, suv medium dan mpv sperti mazda biante dan nissan serena skalian :big_childish: :big_childish:
kalo innova diesel bisa kemakan avanza diesel malah beneran , jadi innoba diesel harganya jadi agak normal dan main diskon :wkkk: :big_biglaugh:
skarang di segmen low mpv mini diesel. sejak spin lengser keprabon berarti belum ada pemain sama sekali di segmen ini. suzuki indonesia kayaknya bener2 maju mundur padahal ertiga diesel 1300 cc sukses besar di india sana. mungkin karena masih dibawah pengawasan indomobil :big_grin: :big_grin:
seharusnya ni segmen bisa langsung disambar oleh toyota, apalagi harga medium mpv diesel semakin gila skarang :big_bored: :big_dunno:
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nehi

existing high (bad level) fuel sulphur content is the burden for many modern diesels to exist in indo

mgkn satu wkt ...production tools avanza sdh.pindah ksana saat avanza akan kluar diesel krn disana apapun punya diesel version sekecil apapun ... meski cuma 800cc
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Mau deh tuker panjah lawas ane ke panjah diesel :ngacir:
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mobilio diesel tinggal ambil dri india, begitu jg ertiga

tinggal masalah solar di indon
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Setuju banget ni, dari dlu nunggu ertiga diesel ga keluar2, mau beli spin tapi spare part nya ko mahal sekali, akhirnya beli panther second. Hiks
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Bicara Chevy indo, jangan lupa juga (mantan) primadona mereka : Captiva diesel yang sekarang kayaknya lagi banyak dicari orang2 sekennya :D

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kayaknya gak booming deh. Dengan image diesel yang asapnya bau. Teman saya di kantor ada juga yg lagi mau ambil ipah baru bensin.
Ditanya alasannya kenapa gak ambil diesel, karena sering ke luar kota ,takut solar susah dapet.
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memang avansa matic ini harusnya bermesin diesel, atau kalo nggak maticnya minim 5AT.,
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nyotnyet wrote:Setuju!
Kebetulan saya pecinta mesin diesel...sehari2 pake ipah diesel, pgn mbl diesel lagi, nungguin ertiga diesel kok ga keluar2...
Kalo ada avanza diesel apalagi ada maticnya sih memikat banget...tp apa gak makan pasar kakaknya (innova) ya?
Mesin spinsel sama kan yaa kaya ertiga diesel ? pake fiat multijet 1.3?
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Yihhaaa :mky_02: si irit nan kenchang :mky_02: makin irit makin kenchaannnggg :cupss: :upss: seandainya tiap varian ada versi dieselnya.. pasti maknyuussss ni :drinking: dari trim E ampe veloz :big_smoking: tinggal ulik ampe 300hp daily use mantaapppp :mky_02:
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Deja Vu lihat postingan akang diatas :D

Tapi setuju... gw mau Avanza diesel... asal kakinya bisa di-tune up jadi lebih manusiawi :D
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atau dibuat multi vvti ...single sdh kuno ... dual kurang irit ... mgkn quadro vvti ...

hrs bisa telan fuel paling buruk di planet dg water content tertinggi
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Atau avanza with 2kd engine? :big_slap:

Kalau beneran ini dijakarta mungkin lomba asap karena oprekan nyaris 250an hp..
Papanjah makin tak terkejar :wkkk:
gnki diesel kopling jadi kuda harian :mky_07:
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Avanza diesel, buat apa?


No seriously, buat apa?
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Why not , kang ?












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Yes sama kayanya...manual only...tp dgr2 nanti kalo masuk erti diesel mesinnya udah beda?
Ane yakin sih laku ya si erti diesel...

@spoonful : setuju ama om campoeran...why not? Bisa jadi differensiasi dibanding kompetitor..hehehe

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Kata bang wiki
The 1ND-TV (1.4 D-4D) is a compact inline-four turbocharged diesel engine. Introduced into European market in 2002 with the Yaris XP1,[1] it was Toyota's first diesel engine to be equipped with an aluminium cylinder block. Principal aims of its development were low emissions and fuel consumption, reduction of mass (dry weight is 99 kg) and reduction of noise.

Technical specifications of the latest engine version:

Displacement: 1,364 cc
Bore x stroke: 73.0 mm x 81.5 mm[2]
Max. power:
68 PS (50 kW) (FGT) at 3800 rpm
88 PS (65 kW) (VGT) at 3800 rpm
Max. torque:
170 N·m (125 lb·ft) (FGT) at 1800 - 2400 rpm
205 N·m (151 lb·ft) (VGT) at 1800 - 2800 rpm
Fuel Supply system: direct injection
Intake system: fixed/variable geometry turbocharger with intercooler
Valve vechanism: SOHC, 2 valves per cylinder
Fuel injection system: common rail direct injection
Camshaft drive: timing chain
Exhaust gas treatment: EGR, equipped with cooler and catalytic converter
Emission standard: Euro III (2001–2005); Euro IV, Euro V, BS IV
Fuel economy as per ARAI: 23.59 km/L



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Why not? Lots of reasons, actually.
Efisiensi? udah irit, mau dibikin se-ngirit apa?
Torsi besar? ane rasa nggak perlu, bodinya udah enteng
Lagipula kalo ngeliat penjualannya yang lesu mungkin karena daya beli masyarakat secara umum berkurang. Ane jarang lihat mobil gres akhir2 ini.
Adding a diesel variant boost sales? I don't think so...

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Disel. Setup FF layout. 6MT speed. Improve handling+rebound sedappp. @spoon, lah klo private demand ancur, moso mau jualan fleet wae. Burung biru aj pilih mobilio
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Spoonful wrote:Why not? Lots of reasons, actually
Adding a diesel variant boost sales? I don't think so...

Just my 2 cents
Setidaknya ngasi pilihan lain kpd konsumen yg mau mobil diesel 3 row durable, imo, mobil diesel 3 row yg murah dan durable yg masi d jual resmi paling phanter smart tp uda tenggelam hilang dgn kejadulannya dan harganya yg ternyata ga murah, spin diesel yang uda di tinggalin produsen nya :e-naughty: ipah diesel paling murah uda 300jt :big_childish:

Maybe tar E manual start 200jtan, veloz At 240jt :big_deal:

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Kalo ada pilihan transmisi ATnya (meskipun cmn 4 speed) dan torsi gede, gw pribadi mau beli avanza disel... :big_biglaugh:
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jika model,spek,suspensi masih kaya yg skrng tetep tidak membuat saya tertarik.

dan imho wholesale nasional jg bisa jadi blm tentu ngalahin yg gasoline.

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di indo skrg tiap akan ada lineup baru

brandholder hrs ajukan permohonan uji ... kirakira akan stop di situ (tdk dpt approval krn existing fuel subsidy proportion lbh byk biodiesel-5 sbg penerima subsidy terbesar dibanding premium

selain itu di byk daerah trmsk jawa ... biodiesel-5 sering logistic problem