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expert2 dan senior2 sekalian..kalo mobil kita upgrade rem depan ke high performance(rotor dan kampas tanpa kaliper)...perlukah dibarengi rem belakang jg di upgred?:)

dan seberapa pentingkah rem belakang itu berpengaruh thd seluruh performa pengereman?i.e. selain sbg penstabil mobil wkt ngerem..atas bantuan rekan2, expert2 dan senior2 sekalian..terima kasih yah:)
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tolong dibantu..huhuuhuu :e-pray:
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gimana sih ini,...
masa' dari ribuan kerumunan orang disini, kagak ada yg bisa kasih advise ke bang jombi ???
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iya nih..pengin nangis aku bang...uhuk :cry:
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yg awam mo coba tulis nih bang....

katanya, saat pengeraman, 70% beban kinetic akan ditanggung roda (rem) depan, jadi kalo pertanyaan bang jombi, sebrapa pentingkah fungsi rem belakang? yaa....kalo boleh asal ngomong, pentingnya cuma sampe 30% aja.... :mrgreen:

saya coba kasi2 link yah (sayang umumnya hanya membahas disc brake vs. drum brake):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_brake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_brake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_lining
http://cars.about.com/od/thingsyouneedt ... vsdrum.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/techce ... ticle.html
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yang penting jangan sampai rem belakang lebih pakem dari rem depan... :e-naughty:
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ooo...bntr ane baca dulu pak imsus..hehehe
sen..rem blkg lbh pakem mah enak itu boil lhor.... :big_slap:
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Mungkin tulisan ini yah yg dimaksud bro zombiee.

Sebelon ane coba jawab (wlp jawabannya belum tentu bisa bikin nt puas), nampaknya ada yg ane mo tanyain dulu neh:
1. Mbl nt apa?
2. Alasan ampe diganti apa?

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hah?? enak gimana??
kalau rem belakang lbh pakem drpd rem depan mah, pasti goyang pantat selalu, dooong....

coba aja naik sepeda atau motor,
lalu rem mendadak, rem belakang doang .....whuaaaaa
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mksdnya enak liat goyang pantat lhor..macam drift...tapi drift il fatale...gitu lhor..hahahahhahaha

mobil nya x-trail nih bang...alasan diganti krn rotornya sering baling/ga rata..jadi mo ane ganti aza sekalian ke high performance..nah pertanyaannya..perlu diganti ga yg belakang secara yg belakang kondisinya masi mulus..:)

trus kalo ganti depan aza berpengaruh ke sistem pengereman?seberepa efektif kah kalo kita ganti disc rotor dan disc pad depan tanpa ganti selang, caliper dan cairan rem?:)...tenkiu duluan yah pak sjam..hehehe
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ZombiEE wrote: mobil nya x-trail nih bang...alasan diganti krn rotornya sering baling/ga rata..jadi mo ane ganti aza sekalian ke high performance..nah pertanyaannya..perlu diganti ga yg belakang secara yg belakang kondisinya masi mulus..:)

trus kalo ganti depan aza berpengaruh ke sistem pengereman?seberepa efektif kah kalo kita ganti disc rotor dan disc pad depan tanpa ganti selang, caliper dan cairan rem?:)...tenkiu duluan yah pak sjam..hehehe
Nampaknya kaga perlu deh.

Nampaknya sama aja, cuma ada 1 hal yg bikin ane ragu neh, apakah kualitas penggantinya itu bagus apa kaga, krn berhubungan dg rem sebaiknya konsultasikan dulu ke beresnya. Takutnye (amit2 deh) penggantinya berkwalitas rendah, shg bisa jadi bahaya.

Klo kaga salah di boil ini dah pake sistim abs pada remnya, jadi dg perlengkapan standard aja dah bagus deh. Trus satu lagi neh, coba nt tanyakan ama sesama pemake boil ini, apakah dg jarak tempuh yg segitu apakah wajar klo ada kerusakan spt yg nt alamin. :mrgreen:
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oo..kalo kualitas sih uda pasti bang sjam...
nah..rotor rem nya boil ini emg dodol py...sering ga rata surfacenya.ini uda rotor ke 2 yg saya warp..yg kedua ini sempat pake kampas pmu..abis lhar rotornya..uhuk
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jadi kesimpulannya apa pak?:)
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ZombiEE wrote:oo..kalo kualitas sih uda pasti bang sjam...
nah..rotor rem nya boil ini emg dodol py...sering ga rata surfacenya.ini uda rotor ke 2 yg saya warp..yg kedua ini sempat pake kampas pmu..abis lhar rotornya..uhuk
ane sedikit binun neh dg istilah rotor, apakah yg dimaksud rotor itu piringannya apa bukan sih?.
Trus kampas pmu itu apa?. Tolong dunk jangan pake singkatan klo mo bahas yg beginian, takutnya salah mengartikannya. n klo bisa juga saat pertama kali nt tanyakan sebaiknya langsung dimasukkan data2 yg lbh lengkap, jangan sdh dibahas sebagian, eh nt tambain lagi klo ini dah yg kedua kalinya, jadi ane mesti analisa lg neh cerita nt.

Nah sebelon melanjutkan lagi tolong neh ada masukan lagi ga yg nt dah lakukan, spy jangan ampe dah maju sekian langkah dlm membahas, tiba2 mundur lagi gara2 ada informasi yg kurang ditambahkan. ok :big_smoking:
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rotor itu disc nya kan..
kalo gw bilang, mau upgrade depan dulu gapapa, asal bukan yg beda jauh banget dari spec standar, maksudnya hi-peformance tapi masih untuk street daily use.
ini bahas rem Xtrail yah? isunya rata2 rem xtrail sering bunyi2, bener?
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GTR wrote:rotor itu disc nya kan..
ini bahas rem Xtrail yah? isunya rata2 rem xtrail sering bunyi2, bener?
Mudah2an benar yg dimaksud bro zombi dg rotor itu disc nya, krn klo disene yg namanya rotor itu adanye di dekat platina.

Jangankan xtrail, boil kijang ane aja rasanya dah bosen tuh gantiin disc ama brake padnya, krn bunyi terus. Padahal baru dipake belon lama. :mrgreen:
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hahahaha..siap pak sjamsul!..
mksdnya rotor itu piringan rem nya..spt yg pak gtr blg....bukan bunyi tuh pak gtr...tapi sering ga rata permukaannya(sbg info, rata2 wkt penggunaan rotor saya sblm bergelombang itu di bawah 8 bulan)....getar di setir wkt rem dari kecepatan tinggi...

iya pak gtr, ini bahas rem nya x-trail nih..hehehe...rencananya mo ganti yg high performace, tapi buat street:)

kronologi cerita:

rotor pertama(kira2 1 tahun...dibubut sampek 2 kali).., baling/gak rata, saya klaim ganti yg baru..
nah yg kedua ini agak panjang ceritanya..saya pernah memakai kampas rem project mu(street racing) sewaktu memakai rotor kedua ini, jadinya rotornya kalah sama kampas rem nya..skg geter (d setir) minta ampun tuh wkt di rem..(waktu pemakaian kurang lbh jg 1 tahun sdh bubut sekali)...

pembahasaannya spt swkt saya mulai thread ini...saya khawatir kalo mengganti rotor dan kampas rem yg high performance di depan takutnya malah jadi ga balance kareng yang belakang tidak ikut diganti?

trus tambahannya, kalo ganti rotor dan kampas saja tanpa dibarengi oleh penggatian kaliper beserta selang rem dan cairan spek lbh tinggi, apakah masi akan ada pemendekan jarak pengereman?:)

saya pernah pake minyak rem dot4, gile..takut bocor nih seal nya..akhirnya kuras lagi ganti ke asli pabrikan...dasar abis duit mulu:(
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kalo rotor nya "kalah" melulu, coba cari kanvasrem(disc-pad) alternatif nya aja yg berbahan lebih "lunak" klo ada; rotornya tetep pakai standar aja.
paling2 kanvas ini agak lebih cepet wear&ganti dari biasanya.
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@zombiee:
bro ane coba kasih sedikit tips yg mungkin aja bisa menolong:
Coba perhatikan jalan yg biasa nt lalui, apakah selalu mulus ato sering menempuh perjalanan dg kondisi jalan yg rusak.
penjelasan a:
klo jalan mulus mesti dicari penyebab lainnya
penjelasan b:
klo jalan tidak mulus harap diperhatikan setelan laher roda bagian depan, kemungkinannya setelan berubah saat sering melewati jalan rusak n kemungkinannya berpengaruh thd piringan tsb. cmiiw.

btw minyak rem dot 4 kaga masalah deh klo dipakein di mbl nt, yg penting adalah penggantian minyak rem HARUS teratur, misalkan tiap 20 rb KM. Jadi mo pake dot 3 ato dot 4 kaga masalah, trus satu lagi neh, jangan mencampurkan minyak rem dg merk lainnya, wlp minyak rem tsb netral.
Setau ane minyak rem netral ini boleh dipake klo terpaksa aja(sementara), jadi klo dah normal pakein dah yg satu merk. :mrgreen:

lupa neh 1 lagi, minyak rem ikutin aja ama spek boilnya. Klo dianjurkan dot 3 yah pake dot 3, tapi klo spek mbl dot 4, yah jangan diganti dg dot 3. ok
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ooo..ok bro2 sekalian..thanks atas bantuannya...:)
iya nih..hehehe..kampas rem yg walo katanya streeet use jgn digunakan pada rotor standar mobil deh...bisa kalah itu rotor..hehehehehe
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Kalu cuma upgrade disc atau pad belum bisa dibilang high performance bro. Soalnya cuma perangkat pasif. Yg namanya high performance itu upgrade kalipernya. Cuma memang muahall...

Btw kalu karena discnya kalah trus, harus dilihat padnya. Kalu padnya terlalu keras, otomatis discnya bakal bergelombang. Kata bro GTR bener tuh, coba ganti yg lebih lunak. Utk nyarinya lumayan susah kali ya. Tapi intinya kurang lebih begitu. Kalu ga dapet2 ya diganti, ganti disc yg lebih keras supaya ga gampang tergores pad.

Masalah pad street use, street race, atau race only, lebih kepada kinerja bahan saat panas. Yg jelas rem utk racing tidak cocok utk harian, karena hanya bisa bekerja pada suhu tinggi. Jadi kalu dipakai harian malah nge-blong trus. Pengalaman waktu pakai motor, pad street race lebih keras dari standar.
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jadi gimana nih meneer djombie...? sudah jadi di-upgrade rem-nya? bagi2 pengalamannya disini dong... :e-whistle:
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thanks atas advise nya rekan2 sekalian..iya nih..pengen ganti kaliper..tapi apa daya dana blm nyampe dan repot nya minta ampun...hehehehe

blm nih bro imsus..orderan part saya blm nyampe..rencana nya sih ganti dixcel:)pad dan rotor sekalian...replacement part sih:)

emg iya sih bro anjas...ga bole dipake tuh pad performance dgn rotor oem...bisa kalah trus rotornya..uhuk
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Lanjut trit lama...
Nih jawabannya utk meneer imsus, rotor dan pad dixcelmsangat sesuai ekspektasi, sangat paten.
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ZombiEE wrote:Lanjut trit lama...
Nih jawabannya utk meneer imsus, rotor dan pad dixcelmsangat sesuai ekspektasi, sangat paten.
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