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ilhami wrote:Di internet kok ada mesin diesel gd 1364 cc etios liva ya
Etios diesel bukan pake GD, tapi pake ND
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ND_engine
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DOHC wrote:Seharusnya sehh kl peruntukan nya jd kuda beban kya di ipah2 sblomnya... besi cor yahh pilihan nya... cast iron utk enjin blok... tp enjin head aluminium... persis sprrti d 1tr.... ud terbukti super robust


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triton baru aja pake mesin 4N15 yang die cast alloy block n head koq... :big_think:
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@maskopat: atau bsa jg pertimbangan cost kl om... cast alloy mungkin lebi mahal pembuatan nya... apalagi utk pertimbangan mobil kuda beban utk price medium mpv... kl soal tech sehh... 4b11 nya evoX aj ud full alluminium alloy.... turbo direct injection pula..... gapapa tuh

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Kalau teknologi estec efficient superior termal combustion maksudnya apa ya
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ilhami wrote:Kalau teknologi estec efficient superior termal combustion maksudnya apa ya
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@om turbo minta tolong judulnya jangan disingkat gitu pakai kata fortuner dan innova biar gampang di search kalau sudah tenggelam. thx.
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Turboman wrote:
ilhami wrote:Kalau teknologi estec efficient superior termal combustion maksudnya apa ya
Cuman istilah / nama dagang aja lah......biar terkesan keren geto
Ga cuma istilah aja sih, ada penjelasan rincinya dari wikipedia:
ESTEC (Economy with Superior Thermal Efficient Combustion) technology, a downsized turbocharged direct injection engine with superior thermal efficient combustion. This engine features a combination of a cylinder head with an integrated exhaust manifold and a turbocharger, and achieves high-speed combustion using a fan spray direct and port injection system and a high in-cylinder tumble ratio. This engine is capable of both seamless and invigorating acceleration while also ensuring superior thermal efficiency.
Jadi kombinasi kepala silindernya nyatu dg jalur turbo, proses pembakaran di dlm mesin jg berlangsung lebih cepat, hasilnya akselerasi jadi lebih spontan & optimal, selain itu tingkat efisiensinya juga lebih tinggi. Itu mungkin garis besarnya om, mdh2an memberi penjelasan yg cukup :mrgreen:
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nflfrs705 wrote:
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ilhami wrote:Kalau teknologi estec efficient superior termal combustion maksudnya apa ya
Cuman istilah / nama dagang aja lah......biar terkesan keren geto
Ga cuma istilah aja sih, ada penjelasan rincinya dari wikipedia:
ESTEC (Economy with Superior Thermal Efficient Combustion) technology, a downsized turbocharged direct injection engine with superior thermal efficient combustion. This engine features a combination of a cylinder head with an integrated exhaust manifold and a turbocharger, and achieves high-speed combustion using a fan spray direct and port injection system and a high in-cylinder tumble ratio. This engine is capable of both seamless and invigorating acceleration while also ensuring superior thermal efficiency.
Jadi kombinasi kepala silindernya nyatu dg jalur turbo, proses pembakaran di dlm mesin jg berlangsung lebih cepat, hasilnya akselerasi jadi lebih spontan & optimal, selain itu tingkat efisiensinya juga lebih tinggi. Itu mungkin garis besarnya om, mdh2an memberi penjelasan yg cukup :mrgreen:
Jadi gini

kalo yg GDI Turbo itu karena pake Turbo Twin Scroll, dia bisa bikin manifold Turbo super pendek dengan konfigurasi 4-2 (1-4 dan 3-2)....outputnya 2 lubang lgs tempel ke flange nya si Turbo Twin scroll, krn Twin scroll itu lubang input Turbine side-nya 2 lubang

Nah sedangkan VNT Turbo Diesel itu lubang input Turbine (gas buang) hanya satu, jadi gimanapun butuh manifold konvensional 4-1. Lha manifold std nya aja modelnya log pipe pendek gitu, mau dipendekkin apanya lagi ya ???

Kalo udah pernah bongkar2 mesin pasti paham
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tumben toyota baik hati kasih teknologi baru lagi? harga kayanya bakalan naik banyak nih :mky_02: apalagi bau2nya agya versi long bakalan nongol, ga bakalan toyota betah liat datsun go+ sendirian enak2 :mky_03: jadi avanza juga ikutan naik harga biar ada ruang buat agya versi long :mky_02:

yang penting itu filter solar didobelin d biar ga gampang keselek lagi, terus turbo ga usah tinggi2 biar irit oli :mky_03:
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kunaskun wrote:tumben toyota baik hati kasih teknologi baru lagi? harga kayanya bakalan naik banyak nih :mky_02: apalagi bau2nya agya versi long bakalan nongol, ga bakalan toyota betah liat datsun go+ sendirian enak2 :mky_03: jadi avanza juga ikutan naik harga biar ada ruang buat agya versi long :mky_02:

yang penting itu filter solar didobelin d biar ga gampang keselek lagi, terus turbo ga usah tinggi2 biar irit oli :mky_03:
R&D nya dilakukan di lebih dr 10 negara mas.. Hilux kan buat pasar global, sedunia ada (kecuali jepang & amerika serikat), termasuk negara2 eropa yg nuntut nilai emisi wajib bagus, ya muncullah 1GD dan 2GD dgn embel2 ESTEC dan VGT yg "katanya" lolos euro6 :mky_01:
Mungkin kalo masuk sini ada penyesuaian spek krn kualitas diesel di indo masih belum sebaik di negara lain, mungkin yg 2.4L jadi 155hp/390nm atau yg 2.8 jd 170hp/435nm
Sekalian nanya nih om, kok torsi ipah diesel manual sm matic beda yah? Lebih gede matic. Yg manual 102 hp 200 nm, matic 100 hp 260 nm. Katanya kopling manual toyota ga kuat nahan torsi badak, bener gak sih :big_dunno:
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nflfrs705 wrote:
kunaskun wrote:tumben toyota baik hati kasih teknologi baru lagi? harga kayanya bakalan naik banyak nih :mky_02: apalagi bau2nya agya versi long bakalan nongol, ga bakalan toyota betah liat datsun go+ sendirian enak2 :mky_03: jadi avanza juga ikutan naik harga biar ada ruang buat agya versi long :mky_02:

yang penting itu filter solar didobelin d biar ga gampang keselek lagi, terus turbo ga usah tinggi2 biar irit oli :mky_03:
R&D nya dilakukan di lebih dr 10 negara mas.. Hilux kan buat pasar global, sedunia ada (kecuali jepang & amerika serikat), termasuk negara2 eropa yg nuntut nilai emisi wajib bagus, ya muncullah 1GD dan 2GD dgn embel2 ESTEC dan VGT yg "katanya" lolos euro6 :mky_01:
Mungkin kalo masuk sini ada penyesuaian spek krn kualitas diesel di indo masih belum sebaik di negara lain, mungkin yg 2.4L jadi 155hp/390nm atau yg 2.8 jd 170hp/435nm
Sekalian nanya nih om, kok torsi ipah diesel manual sm matic beda yah? Lebih gede matic. Yg manual 102 hp 200 nm, matic 100 hp 260 nm. Katanya kopling manual toyota ga kuat nahan torsi badak, bener gak sih :big_dunno:
betul tuh om koplingnya gak gitu kuat, kalau dah 200hp aja dah harus upgrade kopling yg keras kalau ngak yah selip tiap bejek, jarak nya deket ratio nya kalau manual makanya 5 speed tapi top speed lebih rendah.
anyway ternyata bener nih mau ganti mesin dan transmisi, mekanik nya dah pada di trainin mesin baru semua, tinggal harga aja nih gak tau berapa, naik kelas juga nih innova kayaknya :mky_03:
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damn baru juga ngambil fortuner udah ganti mesin lagi :big_dunno: nasib mesin vnt sekarang bakal susah gak ya sparepartnya :big_cry:
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mahesoo wrote:damn baru juga ngambil fortuner udah ganti mesin lagi :big_dunno: nasib mesin vnt sekarang bakal susah gak ya sparepartnya :big_cry:
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mahesoo wrote:damn baru juga ngambil fortuner udah ganti mesin lagi :big_dunno: nasib mesin vnt sekarang bakal susah gak ya sparepartnya :big_cry:
Lah Mesin 5K / 7K aja spare partsnya tetap melimpah......padahal 7K-E terakhir diproduksi sekitar 2004 awal

Sy masih piara mesin 2L th 2001.....kemudahan parts "at your fingertip"......parts2 juga murah.....padahal 2 L terakhir diproduksi th 2004 awal
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alexdonovan wrote:
mahesoo wrote:damn baru juga ngambil fortuner udah ganti mesin lagi :big_dunno: nasib mesin vnt sekarang bakal susah gak ya sparepartnya :big_cry:
toyota sih aman Om... Emangnya R*****t :lol:
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nflfrs705 wrote:
Turboman wrote:
ilhami wrote:Kalau teknologi estec efficient superior termal combustion maksudnya apa ya
Cuman istilah / nama dagang aja lah......biar terkesan keren geto
Ga cuma istilah aja sih, ada penjelasan rincinya dari wikipedia:
ESTEC (Economy with Superior Thermal Efficient Combustion) technology, a downsized turbocharged direct injection engine with superior thermal efficient combustion. This engine features a combination of a cylinder head with an integrated exhaust manifold and a turbocharger, and achieves high-speed combustion using a fan spray direct and port injection system and a high in-cylinder tumble ratio. This engine is capable of both seamless and invigorating acceleration while also ensuring superior thermal efficiency.
Jadi kombinasi kepala silindernya nyatu dg jalur turbo, proses pembakaran di dlm mesin jg berlangsung lebih cepat, hasilnya akselerasi jadi lebih spontan & optimal, selain itu tingkat efisiensinya juga lebih tinggi. Itu mungkin garis besarnya om, mdh2an memberi penjelasan yg cukup :mrgreen:
Sepertinya jadi integrated header ala agya,ahond L dan R series dan ford ecoboost........... jd bukan di perpendek headerny, justru ga dipke dan headernya di cylinder head outputnya 1 langsung ke turbo

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Akhirnya Hilux 2016 baru resmi keluar di thailand

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kabar2in ya apakah bloknya aloy atau besi... :thanks:
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Klw innova bakal dpt power 150HP ++ jg gak yh :big_think: ?
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Spec GD-FTV dan Maticnya si Revo

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Good power dan bner pke mesin GD :big_exellent: :big_exellent:
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seperti biasa di tunggu upgrade an murah meriah mesin baru fortuner n inova yang sudah punya duluan..