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Jeep Wrangeler diesel minum bio-solar

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salam buat rekan2 skalian.

ada rencana mau beli jeep wrangler sport platinum diesel, tapi masalahnya di daerah ogut (palembang) yang jual pertadex bisa diitung jari.

di artikel2 dibilangnya sih minum bio-solar ga apa-apa. apa bener ya? apa itu cuman trik marketing aja biar mobilnya laku.

mohon masukan rekan2 yang udah punya mobil sejenis.

btw kalo jeep wrangler bensin pemakaiannya 1 banding berpa km ya?

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hahaha wrote:salam buat rekan2 skalian.

ada rencana mau beli jeep wrangler sport platinum diesel, tapi masalahnya di daerah ogut (palembang) yang jual pertadex bisa diitung jari.

di artikel2 dibilangnya sih minum bio-solar ga apa-apa. apa bener ya? apa itu cuman trik marketing aja biar mobilnya laku.

mohon masukan rekan2 yang udah punya mobil sejenis.

btw kalo jeep wrangler bensin pemakaiannya 1 banding berpa km ya?

thanks
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"atas nama" lokasi... kalau terpaksanya, bagaimana lagi?
tp msh bs diusahakan beli stok pertadex jerigen jg kan?


klo masalah apa2 atau tdk apa2, hanya satu narasumber dimari, jd tinggal tggu aja pakarnya diesel om turboman ntarnya ngasih penjabaran ttg standar penanganannya, jika terpaksa solar4500, yaitu ttg:
- "racun2 solar" yg perlu dicampurkan
- ganti filter2 lbh srg
- purging berkala


tp tetep, intinya sangat usahakan aja utk malakukan effort lebih, yaitu: mau memburu pertadex. ..toh bukan gak ada sama sekali di sana.










klo menurut websitenya sih FC nya (combine L/100km)
3.6L Pentastar™ V6: All DPF: 10.4 (3.21 RAR); 11.2 (3.73 RAR); 11.4 (4.10 RAR)- Europe Only)
2.8L I4 Turbo Diesel: All DPF: 8.1 w/A5 (3.21 RAR); 8.6 w/ A5 (3.73 RAR); 7.1 w/ M6 (3.21 RAR); 8.0 w/ M6 (3.73 RAR)- Europe Only
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Penasaran ama spek lengkapnya wrangler diesel
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ini situasi pembandingnya:
dulu saat bgt byk kasus airplane crashes @ indo sy hrs mondar mandir bbrp kota n bgt byk barang n bukti yg hrs diangkut ...

2008 oleh salah 1 principal sy diberi kend operasional vw transporter a/t dgn rear twin door yg mrk pesan lsg dr hannover. sampai di jkt sy liat sicker dibalik fuel-lid yg ada di bawah pintu dpn kiri (row seat 1) ...ada tulisan bio-diesel di coret

trus sy minta agar kend tsb bisa minum bio diesel n bengkel resmi lakukan perubahan (sy tdk tau detail nya) n ahir nya mrk nyatakan tertulis resmi bhw kend tsb mampu konsumsi bio-diesel n mencopot sticker tsb sehingga garansi resmi thd mesin tetap berlaku ...sy gunakan kend tsb selama 28,000 km++ atau sampai tugas semua selesai dlm 10 bulan lbh dikit


nah coba anda tanyakan secara tertulis apakah unit jeep yg mau dibeli itu bisa minum bio-diesel 4,500 ...kalo mrk bilang bisa, minta tertulis resmi nya shg garansi apapun tdk hilang n anda tenang memakai nya
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Biodiesel sih pasti bisa, cuman masalahnya serius deh ane bingung hari gini ada yg mikirin FC, apalagi kalau dah beli mobil diatas 200 juta, apalagi ada yg sampe nyetir aja injek gas pelit amat, gak enak banget gitu loh nyetirnya :mrgreen:
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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@evo
mstinya sih ini ya...


2.8 L VM Motori R 428 Diesel I4 Turbo Diesel.
adalah R 425 DOHC yg digedein jd 2.8 L (2,766 cc or 168.8 cu in) displacement.

aslinya R 428 DOHC I4 Turbo Diesel sebelum jd mod. RA 428 DOHC
•Displacement:171 CID (2,768 cc)
•Stroke: 3.94 in (100 mm)
•Bore: 3.70 in (94 mm)

160 HP @ 3,800 RPM
295 ft. lbs. of torque @ 1,800 RPM
Double Overhead Cam (DOHC)
Direct Fuel Injection (DFI)
Compression Ratio 17.5:1


sdgkan yg utk Wrangler skrg2 adalh versi udah mod. RA 428 DOHC
power: 177 hp (130 kW)
torque:
-- Manual transmission: 302 lb·ft or 410 N·m
-- automatic transmission: 339 lb·ft or 460 N·m



eniwe, mmg mantap/beda mikirnya klo lawyer, ane sblm ini blm pernah kepikir minta si ATPM modify engine shg klausul bio-diesel (atau premium klo bensin) hrs disepakati, jd gak bikin warranty void
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VM motori... yg masokin enjin utk captiva vcdi jg kann... lumayan lharr kalo gt... terbukti banyak vcdi yg masi kuat nenggak biosolar busuk pertamini... walaupun ada jg beberapa kasus sperti om evo...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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^^
katanya sih mulai produksi 2012 uda bisa biosolar..... karna DPF filternya di cabut, alhasil dari euro5 jadi turun ke euro2. wrangler crd sampai 2010 masih pke DPF filter sempet bermasalah juga. 2011 di stop penjualan wrangler CRD, 2012 di jual lagi dengan penyesuaian tadi...

*cuma masa pke JK, di saat ada DEX tetep milih biosolar subsidi wkwk :D * kec terpaksa, dan atpm nya juga uda ngejamin.

temen2 gw yg pke JK crd kebanyakan puas, ga kalah larinya ama yg 3.8V6 *klw yg pentastar y beda lagi hehe* solarnya 1:10-13 kpn lagi jeep irit tenaga gede... wkwk :D


yg di indo klw g salah 200hp 410Nm dan yg mt 460nm...


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andy1800 wrote:@evo
mstinya sih ini ya...


2.8 L VM Motori R 428 Diesel I4 Turbo Diesel.
adalah R 425 DOHC yg digedein jd 2.8 L (2,766 cc or 168.8 cu in) displacement.

aslinya R 428 DOHC I4 Turbo Diesel sebelum jd mod. RA 428 DOHC
•Displacement:171 CID (2,768 cc)
•Stroke: 3.94 in (100 mm)
•Bore: 3.70 in (94 mm)

160 HP @ 3,800 RPM
295 ft. lbs. of torque @ 1,800 RPM
Double Overhead Cam (DOHC)
Direct Fuel Injection (DFI)
Compression Ratio 17.5:1


sdgkan yg utk Wrangler skrg2 adalh versi udah mod. RA 428 DOHC
power: 177 hp (130 kW)
torque:
-- Manual transmission: 302 lb·ft or 410 N·m
-- automatic transmission: 339 lb·ft or 460 N·m



eniwe, mmg mantap/beda mikirnya klo lawyer, ane sblm ini blm pernah kepikir minta si ATPM modify engine shg klausul bio-diesel (atau premium klo bensin) hrs disepakati, jd gak bikin warranty void
:frm_tumbright: :frm_tumbright: :thanks:
Kayanya mesinnya tidak terlalu dimaksimalkan ya
Captiva aja 2000cc 160hp 360nm
Mungkin memang mesinnya didesain utk lebih toleran terhadap solar biasa?
Cmpretion ratio 1:17 turbo boost mungkin jg ga gede2 amat
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^^
200ps 410Nm kok kurang maksimal.........
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Waduh baru nyadar ada yg versi lebih baru yah.. Wakakaka
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andy1800 wrote:
klo menurut websitenya sih FC nya (combine L/100km)
3.6L Pentastar™ V6: All DPF: 10.4 (3.21 RAR); 11.2 (3.73 RAR); 11.4 (4.10 RAR)- Europe Only)
2.8L I4 Turbo Diesel: All DPF: 8.1 w/A5 (3.21 RAR); 8.6 w/ A5 (3.73 RAR); 7.1 w/ M6 (3.21 RAR); 8.0 w/ M6 (3.73 RAR)- Europe Only
Itu Europe Only,
Kalau Pantura Only, kira2 timbul margin error berapa % ya? :mky_03:
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Kalau mau pake jeep jgn tanya FC gan.... ;-)
Tapi kata sales gpp gan pk biosolar...
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Maksudnya?...Agan jg udah pake Wrangler ?
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hahaha wrote:salam buat rekan2 skalian.

ada rencana mau beli jeep wrangler sport platinum diesel, tapi masalahnya di daerah ogut (palembang) yang jual pertadex bisa diitung jari.

di artikel2 dibilangnya sih minum bio-solar ga apa-apa. apa bener ya? apa itu cuman trik marketing aja biar mobilnya laku.

mohon masukan rekan2 yang udah punya mobil sejenis.

btw kalo jeep wrangler bensin pemakaiannya 1 banding berpa km ya?

thanks
Om, liat di manual book nya aja, min cetane berapa.
kalau ditulis disitu min cetane 48 ya berarti bisa pakai biosolar pertamina
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Resale value nya gimana yah ini jeep?
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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Uwkwkwk...gerimis mengundang ya?
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andy1800 wrote:Uwkwkwk...gerimis mengundang ya?
Lah kok tau disini lagi gerimis?
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htannis wrote:
andy1800 wrote:Uwkwkwk...gerimis mengundang ya?
Lah kok tau disini lagi gerimis?
Disini enggak lho
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billyd1773dz wrote:^^
200ps 410Nm kok kurang maksimal.........

Hmmm..coba generasi cherokee limited or country dulu sudah ada opsi engine kayak gini ya....
Penasaran akselerasi 0-100 kmh wrangler diesel CRD ini berapa ya?
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thanks all buat masukannya. jadi tambah bingung...hahahaha
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htannis wrote:Resale value nya gimana yah ini jeep?
resale value sih juara om............. wrangler YJ aja masih 200-300, wrangler TJ 300-600jt, JK ya di atas situ..... resale valuenya saingan ama LC.

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firawan6275 wrote:
billyd1773dz wrote:^^
200ps 410Nm kok kurang maksimal.........

Hmmm..coba generasi cherokee limited or country dulu sudah ada opsi engine kayak gini ya....
Penasaran akselerasi 0-100 kmh wrangler diesel CRD ini berapa ya?
yg country temen gw asli vmotori 2.5ltr tahun 01, larinya biasa aja sih g terlalu gede sekitar 114ps :D cuma kuat juga tu mesin sampe skrng kondisi perawatan minimal *sparepart n beresnya mw cari dmn* solar biasa sehat2 aja...

haha gtw brp... <10s kli yah... :D

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Cmiiw, biosolar ada bermacam kualitas, kalau dpt yg
Bagus mungkin gpp, tp kalo dpt yg busuk ya kurang baik...

Lebih aman pake pertadex