New Grand Fortuner or Pajero Dakar Faselift (All 4x2)

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Lucky11 wrote:Vote Untuk Pajero...
idem..
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TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

ayo vote for Fortie... si irit nan kencang...! :mky_02:
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poeticmind wrote:TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

ayo vote for Fortie... si irit nan kencang...! :mky_02:
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poeticmind wrote:TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

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Pajero boongan....

Besok2 TAM ngikut strategi KTB nih, si Fortie direname jadi Land Cruiser Sport.... :big_weee:
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poeticmind wrote:TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

ayo vote for Fortie... si irit nan kencang...! :mky_02:
yg penting kan ente punya ''pajero''............. :mky_03: :mky_03: biar kata pajero nya 2wd.......
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Nightster Guy wrote:
poeticmind wrote:TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

- CUT -
:wkkk:

Pajero boongan....

Besok2 TAM ngikut strategi KTB nih, si Fortie direname jadi Land Cruiser Sport.... :big_weee:
kan si trio hilux PU karoseri toyota.... desainnya mendekati TLC.... :mky_03:
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Nightster Guy wrote:
poeticmind wrote:TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

- CUT -
:wkkk:

Pajero boongan....

Besok2 TAM ngikut strategi KTB nih, si Fortie direname jadi Land Cruiser Sport.... :big_weee:
salah ah!

yang bener tuh ntar land cruiser dikasih nama Fortuner Sport. :wkkk:
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spertinya lbih fair compare yg 4wd de...
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solar_kerosen wrote:
zweifellos wrote:iya ya kok bisa beda sama² 2,5 liter tapi bedanya bisa 76 PS antara fortuner dengan dakar :ungg:
itu cuma masalah di kompresi dan pressure om , jadi mobil toyota ada juga kok yg powernya gede cuma gak dimasukin ke sini karena solarnya masih kotor yg mana tidak mungkin dipake buat diesel modern sekelas VGT atau HDI
ada kok, lc100 dan 200.

beda fortuner 2.5 dgn pajsport, salah satunya fortuner tidak punya intercooler. pajsport sudah crdi turbo intercooler dan yg dakkar kalo tdk salah sudah vgt.
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tp vgt 2.5L fortie cm 144hp bro..... masih kalah sama vgt nya PS yang 178hp..... sama captiva yg cm 2.0L aja uda 150hp..... :mky_07:
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si f78 ini enak buat rute panjang sumbar-riau karena empuk dijalan raya plus irit bgt.. rpm 2500 gigi 5 udah dapet 120 kpj.. bayangin iritnya kalo rutenya panjang om..
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Nightster Guy wrote:
poeticmind wrote:TOYOTA dong ah... kan katanya Toyota Indonesia Raih Tingkat Kepuasan Konsumen Tertinggi, masa ngambil pajero boongan...

- CUT -
:wkkk:

Pajero boongan....

Besok2 TAM ngikut strategi KTB nih, si Fortie direname jadi Land Cruiser Sport.... :big_weee:
Emang rada boongan, tapi ya sah2 saja namanya juga marketing. Fortuner sama Landcruiser masih satu aliran, sama2 ladder frame, lah PS ama Pajero beneran satu ladder frame satu unibody...jauh banget.

Nama Landcruiser menurut ane nggak perlu di "perkosa" hanya untuk jualan mobil - Fortuner udah cukup laku. Ane lebih seneng Fortuner dikasi nama seperti di Amerika Latin - Hilux SW4.

Back to topic...ane sih pilih Fortuner 2.7V - gak doyan diesel, dan buatannya lebih halus dr Pajero Sport. Kalo harus diesel baru pilih PS.
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Kalau untuk urusan handling dan enak dipakainya, ngga limbung, saya jelas pilih Pajero
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Toyota bener2 konservatif ah , coba grand fortie mesinnya diupgrade, pasti makin banyak yg milih fortie disel krn selama ini pertimbangannya org milih pS krn diselnya fortie bolot walaupun diugprade aja tinggal siapin brp duit juga sih .

Krn stlh bbrp th PS kluar, jadi bosen banget, kliatan fortie modelnya lbh long lasting . IMO
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om jondut mode:on
ngapain harus pake vgt segala?? turbo biasa aja uda laku banget.....
om jondut mode:off

btw padahal fortie pick up uda vgt lhoo.....
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@akang , tp kl VGT lbh laris lagi atuh
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silahkan lihat realitanya saja....... dgn masang VGT kan biaya produksi naek..... berarti mengurangi pendapatan donk :mrgreen: ..... pdhl apa susahnya ya masang gituan doank........ tp anehnya koq cm 144hp doank??? vgt captiva aja uda 150hp pdhal cm 2.0L doank....... :mky_03:
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biaya produksi naek, kuantitas jualan naek , impas lah kang . Tp ujung2nya pamor fortie kembali naek.
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Torsi maksimum antara Fortie dan Semprot berapa di rpm brapa ya...??
Trus power to weight ratio nya kedua mobil ini berapa ya...??

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FortunerMan wrote: Back to topic...ane sih pilih Fortuner 2.7V - gak doyan diesel, dan buatannya lebih halus dr Pajero Sport. Kalo harus diesel baru pilih PS.
boleh tahu om kenapa gak doyan diesel? hanya masalah selera atau ada pertimbangan teknis? :thanks:
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ak4ng wrote:silahkan lihat realitanya saja....... dgn masang VGT kan biaya produksi naek..... berarti mengurangi pendapatan donk :mrgreen: ..... pdhl apa susahnya ya masang gituan doank........ tp anehnya koq cm 144hp doank??? vgt captiva aja uda 150hp pdhal cm 2.0L doank....... :mky_03:
kalo masalah output mau gede atau gak, simpel lah kang... tapi toyota lebih konservatif untuk urusan ini.
sebenernya gak hanya toyota, everest aja sekitaran itu juga koq. padalah sudah VGT.
yang rada moderate si PS dan navara. kita lihat aja nanti apakah akan terdengar keluhan2 PS VGT ini seperti navara.. :big_peace:
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poeticmind wrote:
solar_kerosen wrote:kalau mau dijual lagi ambil fortuner tapi buat pake sehari hari dan luar kota ambil Pajero sport tenaga dan torsi pas
ente salah besar... Fortie harga jualnya tetep kalah sama PS, oom...

maksud saya sih image toyota lebih kuat dari mitsubishi untuk after sales service maupun Salesnya yg berkeliaran di setiap kantor entah swasta atau pemerintah , jadi maksud komen saya diatas adalah karena bodi besar tenaga kurang maka orang jijik dan dijual lagi bukan masalah fortuner diesel lebih baik dari pasport :wkkk:
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solar_kerosen wrote:
poeticmind wrote:
solar_kerosen wrote:kalau mau dijual lagi ambil fortuner tapi buat pake sehari hari dan luar kota ambil Pajero sport tenaga dan torsi pas
ente salah besar... Fortie harga jualnya tetep kalah sama PS, oom...

maksud saya sih image toyota lebih kuat dari mitsubishi untuk after sales service maupun Salesnya yg berkeliaran di setiap kantor entah swasta atau pemerintah , jadi maksud komen saya diatas adalah karena bodi besar tenaga kurang maka orang jijik dan dijual lagi bukan masalah fortuner diesel lebih baik dari pasport :wkkk:
sales toyota cuma manis pas beli unit doang... udah kebeli sih pengalaman ane biasa2 aja, malah terkesan cuek...
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