New Grand Fortuner or Pajero Dakar Faselift (All 4x2)

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Apakah AWD dimasukkan ke dua gardan penggerak?

Kalau yang paling mendekati harga asli dari mobil (minus pajak) menurut saya yang pajak 25%. Kalau 50% sayang bgt, cuman gara2 gardan dua aja. Mending sekalian masuk di atas 3000 cc, pajaknya 'cuma' kena pajak volume mesin aja.

Btw itu persen dikalikan ke harga apa ya (mungkin ada harga di STNK yang dijadikanp pengali untuk persenan pajak di atas)?

Edit: Makasih ya Bang Jalu atas informasi pajaknya
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nah itu juga mau ane tanya.... apakah awd dan 4wd tulen termasuk penggerak 4 roda???
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minggu depan ane dapet pinjeman portuner 2,7 4x4...kalo sudah dateng tak repiew deh...hehehe :mky_01: :mky_01:
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vote42ner wrote:minggu depan ane dapet pinjeman portuner 2,7 4x4...kalo sudah dateng tak repiew deh...hehehe :mky_01: :mky_01:
pinjem apa malah bikin SPK grand fortie??? :mky_03: :mky_03:
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Blom grand fortie kangkung..masih yg facelift biasa..2011 lah..hehehe
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vote42ner wrote:Blom grand fortie kangkung..masih yg facelift biasa..2011 lah..hehehe
ente masi di bdg kan???
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nape..lu mau ke bandung???? :mky_01:
kalo mau janjian jangan di mari dong...malu di baca om gay...ntar cemburu lagi dia... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_peace:
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vote42ner wrote:nape..lu mau ke bandung???? :mky_01:
kalo mau janjian jangan di mari dong...malu di baca om gay...ntar cemburu lagi dia... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_peace:
...ah si gay..... dia si biasa keluyuran malem2..... alergi siang2...
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Kesan pertama naek portuner 2.7..4x4..ngak ada bedanya dg yg diesel..hehehe..sama aja gruduk gruduuk..goncangan keras..ngak terasa naek mobil 400juta..hehehe
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Selamat malam,

Tadi siang nubie mampir ke Auto2000 liat2 Fortuner. Karena lagi pikir2 ambil Fortuner ato Pajero. Tanya ke salesnya perbedaan antara Fortuner standar dengan yang TRD. Selain bodykit rupanya schock dan per juga diganti punya TRD. Yang jadi pertanyaan apakah suspensi Fortuner dengan TRD bisa lebih empuk/soft ato lebih keras ? Karena tadi dapat penjelasan dari salesnya kalo Fortuner TRD suspensinya lebih empuk. Tapi menurut saya sich bakalan lebih keras.

Bisa minta pendapat suhu suhu disini ?
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trd itu kan divisi racingnya toyota, lucu jg kalo suspensi racing dibilang lebih empuk dr standar.
tp suspensi lebih keras ga selalu berefek negatif kok, mesti dicoba dulu um, yg ane denger sih fortuner tu suspensinya kurang nyaman, sapa tau dengan pakai suspensi trd bantingannya malah lebih pas?
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vote42ner wrote:Kesan pertama naek portuner 2.7..4x4..ngak ada bedanya dg yg diesel..hehehe..sama aja gruduk gruduuk..goncangan keras..ngak terasa naek mobil 400juta..hehehe
Hah.. :e-think: gradak gruduk, keras juga, no wonder atoyot bs pasang harga segitu utk kelas SUV 4x4.
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Ya harga emang segitu segitu buat ladder frame SUV 4WD. Emang hari gini ada yg jauh lebih murah? PS juga harganya 11-12...
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evolution21 wrote:trd itu kan divisi racingnya toyota, lucu jg kalo suspensi racing dibilang lebih empuk dr standar.
tp suspensi lebih keras ga selalu berefek negatif kok, mesti dicoba dulu um, yg ane denger sih fortuner tu suspensinya kurang nyaman, sapa tau dengan pakai suspensi trd bantingannya malah lebih pas?
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Sekalian nubie mau nanya lagi ke suhu suhu, kalo untuk performance kan udah pasti PS lebih unggul. Tapi untuk faktor kenyamanan disisi penumpang siapa yg lebih unggul. Dalam hal bantingan suspensi yg lebih empuk dan faktor space baris ke-2 dan baris ke-3.
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nambahin repiew 42ner 2.7 ya....pas pulang dari kediri ke bandung di muatin penuh..beras 200kg(mumpung gratis hehe) di tambah oleh oleh yg laen dan koper....ya adalah kalo total dg beras jadi 250kg an..smua di taruh di bagian belakang...
efek yg terasa mobil lebih enak ayunannya...(pas di jalan mulus tentunya)
kalo di sisi tenaga saya rasa 2.7 ini sudah agak pas untuk ngangkat body fortie yg gendut...ngak seperti versi dieselnya...boyo banget..bikin capek sopir...
jadi kesimpulan kuli panggul mengenai fortie...mending ambil 2.7 yg type G saja..kalo mau agak nyaman,
tapi kalo yg 2.5 G diesel yg sudah di oprek powernya kuli panggul belum pernah nyoba jadi ngak bisa kasih komeng..karena kemaren hanya sempet make yg 2.5 G standar saja..... cmiww:big_peace:
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vote42ner wrote:nambahin repiew 42ner 2.7 ya....pas pulang dari kediri ke bandung di muatin penuh..beras 200kg(mumpung gratis hehe) di tambah oleh oleh yg laen dan koper....ya adalah kalo total dg beras jadi 250kg an..smua di taruh di bagian belakang...
efek yg terasa mobil lebih enak ayunannya...(pas di jalan mulus tentunya)
kalo di sisi tenaga saya rasa 2.7 ini sudah agak pas untuk ngangkat body fortie yg gendut...ngak seperti versi dieselnya...boyo banget..bikin capek sopir...
jadi kesimpulan kuli panggul mengenai fortie...mending ambil 2.7 yg type G saja..kalo mau agak nyaman,
tapi kalo yg 2.5 G diesel yg sudah di oprek powernya kuli panggul belum pernah nyoba jadi ngak bisa kasih komeng..karena kemaren hanya sempet make yg 2.5 G standar saja..... cmiww:big_peace:
Cihuy, asik donk naek GN Fortuner 2.7 V 4x4. Matic ya? Kalo sama, sama donk dengan yang ekspedisi ke Venice ituu... :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:

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blom yg GN om..masih yg lama keluaran bulan 1 - 2011...hehehe...pas berangkat ke jatim..cuma 3org dewasa, 3 anak2 umur 2-7th..
terasa banget goyangannya..kayak naek truk beneran...tapi pas full loaded malah nyaman...hehehe :big_peace:
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enaknya 4WD, berasa lebih aman kalau ke luar kota di mana kondisi jalan masih tak menentu.
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ak4ng wrote:nah itu juga mau ane tanya.... apakah awd dan 4wd tulen termasuk penggerak 4 roda???
4wd tulen maksudnya gimana ya? :ungg:

kalau awd, tergantung jumlah roda/as-nya...kalau 4 titik, ya penggerak 4 roda...kalau lebih dari 4 titik, ya dihitung aja berapa titiknya :ungg:
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mungkin maksud akang dengan 4wd tulen itu ada difflock (antara penggerak roda depan dan belakang) dan atau low gear kali ya.

kalo emang iya, umumnya AWD ga 4WD tulen kang. ada juga AWD yang pake difflock meski ga pake lowgear macam mitsubishi outlander. CMIIW.
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Sore teman2 di forum sm, ane nubie nih baru register dan join hari ini. Kebetulan nih topik sesuai dengan kondisi ane, ane lagi bingung mau meminang pjs dakkar reloaded putih, atau fortuner 2.5 trd putih yah? Apa sih keunggulan dan kekurangan masing2 mobil? Terus pilihan yg paling tepat yg mana nih?
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bedanya apa om dakar ama dakar reloaded?
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Dakkar yg lama kan masih 4 speed gak pake paddleshift dan masih rem tromol belakang, kalau dakkar reloaded dah 5 speed paddleshift dan discbrake belakang :)
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ooo saya kira yang 4 speed disebut pajero sport tanpa embel dakar, sedang yang 5 speed dan cakram di roda belakang disebut pajero sport dakar.
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