New Grand Fortuner or Pajero Dakar Faselift (All 4x2)

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campoeran wrote:Toyota bener2 konservatif ah , coba grand fortie mesinnya diupgrade, pasti makin banyak yg milih fortie disel krn selama ini pertimbangannya org milih pS krn diselnya fortie bolot walaupun diugprade aja tinggal siapin brp duit juga sih .

Krn stlh bbrp th PS kluar, jadi bosen banget, kliatan fortie modelnya lbh long lasting . IMO
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boypiliang wrote:
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F78 = Rocky indie? Saya pribadi lebih demen F75 rigid om, Rocky 'bodi kurus', 'coz pastinya kaki lebih badak. :)
f75 emang jauh lebih badak dari f78 om bisa dikatakan 3x lipatnya dimedan oprut atau perkebunan ..
si f78 ini enak buat rute panjang sumbar-riau karena empuk dijalan raya plus irit bgt.. rpm 2500 gigi 5 udah dapet 120 kpj.. bayangin iritnya kalo rutenya panjang om..

dapat, brapa om? f78 ane cuman bisa dapat 8-9 km/ltr boros tapi dijual sayang dah ada yg nawar sampe 110 gak kulepas..
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42ner VN Turbo konon sekitar medio 2012 akan masuk kalo ga ada perubahan, so tunggu aja
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Selagi ada tret ini, mo tanya,, mungkin ada SMers atau siapapun yg udah pake Grand new Fortuner 2.7 4x4, boleh dishare,, penasaran pngen tau ini itunya,, maaf ama TS yg tnya 4x2,, ikut nimbrung ya,, :thanks:
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grandscenic wrote:Selagi ada tret ini, mo tanya,, mungkin ada SMers atau siapapun yg udah pake Grand new Fortuner 2.7 4x4, boleh dishare,, penasaran pngen tau ini itunya,, maaf ama TS yg tnya 4x2,, ikut nimbrung ya,, :thanks:
ane blm pernah.. tp yg gen1 taun 2006 2.7L 4wd pernah.... punya paman....... mmg sangat berasa innova (jangkung) nya....
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*cmiiw* spertinya 42ner baru ama lama beda facelift aja..suspensi dan mesin sptnya masih sama spec nya. sy pernah bawa 42ner 2.7 4wd 2010 akhir, performance di aspal, rasanya ga terlalu jauh dari innova spt ak4ng bilang...cuma lebih limbung secara lebih tinggi..

kalo harus pilih antara 42ner 2.5 diesel & passport dakkar, pilih passport dakkar.
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roadtrain99 wrote:*cmiiw* spertinya 42ner baru ama lama beda facelift aja..suspensi dan mesin sptnya masih sama spec nya. sy pernah bawa 42ner 2.7 4wd 2010 akhir, performance di aspal, rasanya ga terlalu jauh dari innova spt ak4ng bilang...cuma lebih limbung secara lebih tinggi..

kalo harus pilih antara 42ner 2.5 diesel & passport dakkar, pilih passport dakkar.
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Mo Fortie kek Pasport kek, yang penting....

Jangan sampe setres kek oknum di foto ini yak? :big_peace:

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Nightster Guy wrote:Mo Fortie kek Pasport kek, yang penting....

Jangan sampe setres kek oknum di foto ini yak? :big_peace:

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solar_kerosen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:Mo Fortie kek Pasport kek, yang penting....

Jangan sampe setres kek oknum di foto ini yak? :big_peace:

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itu mobil dia dicoret orang om , bukan dia yg nulis :mky_07: :mky_07: :mky_07:
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ada info lanjutan mengenai 42ner 3.0 vgt jadinya kapan di glindingkan di indonesia???? :mky_02: :mky_02:
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Beda pajak buat mobil CC 2500 ke bawah ama ke atas berapa ya?
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zweifellos wrote:Beda pajak buat mobil CC 2500 ke bawah ama ke atas berapa ya?
ada rencana ganti mobil om ?
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kaos_oblong wrote:
zweifellos wrote:Beda pajak buat mobil CC 2500 ke bawah ama ke atas berapa ya?
ada rencana ganti mobil om ?
sekarang masih nanya dulu om, soalnya masih penasaran kok yang beredar di indonesia umumnya maksimal 2499 cc mesinnya. trus baca thread sebelah, mobil accord 3,5 liter pajak tahunannya sampe 8 juta, apa gara2 mesinnya yang 3,5 liter itu bikin pajaknya besar (selain kelas mobilnya)?
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vote42ner wrote:ada info lanjutan mengenai 42ner 3.0 vgt jadinya kapan di glindingkan di indonesia???? :mky_02: :mky_02:
kalopun masuk, kemungkinan besar yg mesin 2.5 VN deh :e-think:
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zweifellos wrote:
kaos_oblong wrote:
zweifellos wrote:Beda pajak buat mobil CC 2500 ke bawah ama ke atas berapa ya?
ada rencana ganti mobil om ?
sekarang masih nanya dulu om, soalnya masih penasaran kok yang beredar di indonesia umumnya maksimal 2499 cc mesinnya. trus baca thread sebelah, mobil accord 3,5 liter pajak tahunannya sampe 8 juta, apa gara2 mesinnya yang 3,5 liter itu bikin pajaknya besar (selain kelas mobilnya)?
isi silinder (cc) dan kelas mobil menentukan besaran pajak om, demikian juga dengan tahun pembuatan (kalo beli mobil seken).
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kaos_oblong wrote:isi silinder (cc) dan kelas mobil menentukan besaran pajak om, demikian juga dengan tahun pembuatan (kalo beli mobil seken).
thanks om infonya.
itulah yang pengen tau om, khususnya masalah volume. pajak nya berapa (beda berapa yang di atas 2500cc dengan yang 2500 cc ke bawah). keknya faktor lebih dari 2500cc cukup besar juga dampaknya terhadap pajak. yang saya maksud di sini lebih nantinya ke harga itu mobil ke konsumen (bukan pajak tahunan meskipun kalo ada data tentang itu bagus sekali).
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Hansen wrote:
solar_kerosen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:Mo Fortie kek Pasport kek, yang penting....

Jangan sampe setres kek oknum di foto ini yak? :big_peace:

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Saya pribadi pilih Pajero sport.

Kalau performa mesin tidak jadi prioritas, Fortuner ok. Tapi kalau performa menjadi prioritas pilihannya harus Pajero sport. Kerasa beda jauh untuk sektor ini.
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Kalo forti diesel vs pajero sport dakar. So pasti pajero sport dakar.
Wong saya pake pajero sport exceed aj mantap larinya apalgi dakar.
Kalau liat2 data akselerasi 0-100km/jm tdk menjamin kl mobil yg catatan cepat dipake harian larinya lebih enak. conth catatan akselerasi fori bensin dan livina 1.5at sekitar 12,sekian detik, tapi kl sy bandingkan kl mobil sudah jalan luar kota untuk overtaking lebih cepetan pajero sport excdd di banding tuh forti bensin n livina. Apalgi kl yang dakar vs forty diesel saran sy vote dakar.
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zweifellos wrote:Beda pajak buat mobil CC 2500 ke bawah ama ke atas berapa ya?
kalo liat di tabel resume tarif PPnBM :

Fortuner 3.0 diesel, andaikan dijual disini berarti kategorinya :

"kendaraan bermotor pengangkutan kurang dari 10 (sepuluh) orang termasuk pengemudi, dengan motor bakar nyala kompresi (diesel/semi diesel) berupa sedan atau station wagon dan selain sedan atau station wagon, dengan sistem 1 (satu) gandar penggerak (4x2) atau dengan sistem 2 (dua) gandar penggerak (4x4), dengan kapasitas isi silinder lebih dari 2500 cc; "

maka nilai pajak : 75%
Note : dr keterangan diatas berarti antara versi 2WD dng 4WD pajaknya tetap sama selama kapasitas mesinnya lebih dr 2500cc

Fortuner 2.5 diesel 2WD, yg sudah beredar disini berarti kategorinya :

"kendaraan bermotor untuk pengangkutan kurang dari 10 (sepuluh) orang termasuk pengemudi selain sedan atau station wagon, dengan motor bakar cetus api atau dengan nyala kompresi (diesel/semi diesel), dengan sistem 1 (satu) gandar penggerak (4x2), dengan kapasitas isi silinder lebih dari 1500 cc sampai dengan 2500 cc"

maka nilai pajak : 25%

Fortuner 2.5 diesel 4WD, andaikan dijual disini berarti kategorinya :

"kendaraan bermotor untuk pengangkutan kurang dari 10 (sepuluh) orang termasuk pengemudi dengan motor bakar nyala kompresi (diesel/semi diesel), berupa sedan atau station wagon dan selain sedan atau station wagon, dengan sistem 2 (dua) gandar penggerak (4x4), dengan kapasitas isi silinder lebih dari 1500 cc sampai dengan 2500 cc"

maka nilai pajak : 50%

sumber : http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/learn ... php?id=790

pls CMIIW krn bukan ahli pajak.... :D
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wooo gitu......... thx oom pencerahan nya, berarti dr aturan pajak kendaraan yg ada maka yg paling "masuk akal" adalah kendaraan <2500cc dg gardan ganda ya? karena pajak nya "hanya" 50% dibandingkan kapasitas >2500cc yg pajak nya mencapai 75% :e-think:
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